I recognize most of these, but what are the purple ring and the rainbow one?
Ah yes, modern iconography. Such a simple shape, that even googling “purple ring logo” yeilds no useful results.
The ring is GOG, a game launcher and the rainbow is Adobe creative cloud.
the purple ring is GOG Galaxy, another game store/launcher. No clue what the rainbow one is lol
Purple ring is GoG Galaxy, a games launcher for GoG games with support for plugins to launch games from other games launchers as well.
Rainbow one is Adobe Creative Cloud, a program to manage Adobe services such as Photoshop and Premiere.
Gog Galaxy just doesn’t function on mine, I can download and install game but when I try to run it it just auto crashes I gave up on it. The only reference to it is some weird Windows 7 error but considering I’m running on 10 it doesn’t make any sense that that would be affecting it.
Ew, uninstall most of that
right, a lot of it is malware
i have 25 apps on startup try me.
the only one acceptable is steam, discord, maybe spotify, the fuck is that gay cloud and the pink ring?
the fuck is that gay cloud
Just because it’s creative doesn’t mean it’s gay! (it’s Adobe creative cloud)
the worst of them all tbh, god forbid one of their apps needs an update (and you haven’t toggled off the auto updates which are on by defaut), your PC will be half functional until the update finishes. Adobe is a notorious resource hog
it’s even funnier when said update breaks their app. One time I had photoshop update and they somehow broke the exit button, it literally gave me an error when I tried to close it, only task manager could save me. They just do not test their shit at all
Just gonna add this bc I’m still holding a grudge about it… Adobe doesn’t let you uninstall their apps unless you have a current subscription.
So if you did have one and it expired and you decide you don’t want to renew it, the only way they’ll let you delete their apps (which take up quite a bit of space, on my laptop at least) is if you first pay for another subscription.
I was able to delete most of it by manually sorting through my file manager, but it took at least an hour total, and there are some files I still can’t get rid of. Ugh.
oh it gets worse my friend.
Adobe doesn’t let you cancel your subscription plan if you have a payment due. It doesn’t even let you remove your banking details if your payment failed.
Well, the website says you can’t, and it won’t let you do it. But if you yell and scream at the AI support chatbot for long enough so it lets you talk to an actual person, well they can do it for without a problem and with no questions asked.
Their service is built for the purpose of squeezing as much money out of you as they can, I’m guessing the options to delete your own files and to have support do something for you exist only so they don’t get taken to court and can go “😇” at the end of the day
edit: they also don’t let you remove your account if your payment failed :) even if it failed so hard it cancelled your plan, they still expect money, and as long as they do the option to remove your account just redirects you to updating your billing details. This can again be solved by talking to support. So there is no actual reason for it, it’s just there to get you to pay them
Laughing in GNU/Linux
Discord doesn’t respect the Windows startup settings. That whole platform is a fucking cancer on the human race.
Yea it does. Bring up task manager and go to the startup tab. There will be an item there called git something-arather. Disable that item and discord doesn’t start with windows.
Oh, so they’re just insidiously hiding what you actually need to disable? You understand that’s worse, right?
Give Revolt a shot
You understand
They’re being informative, calm down 😂
If they were just being informative they wouldn’t have led with “yeah it does”. Or they would have phrased it differently.
discord shows up as just discord in the start up menu for me
I mean, there are a lot of other apps that put their start-up behavior here, too. And there’s a setting in Discord not to start at boot
Largely I agree that their platform is cancer, but not because of their startup settings
… I just disable it in their settings without issue.
Reminds me of OneDrive hiding their don’t start with Windows option.
It’s such a fetch thing to do now.
is this a windows thing that im too linux to understand
yes
When your Linux machine is so efficient on resources that it doesn’t even try to run your video card or wifi dongle…
My linux desktop: “Nvidia? Hmm. Yuck, no thank you.”
Linux was right on that one. Yuck nvidia.
… not necessarily their hardware, but business practices.
(For those who don’t know, that’s Linus Torvalds, the guy who made Linux, and the quote is real.)
Thats actually the guy who made git
McAfee is actual malware at this point anyway
Imagine needing an antivirus
This post was made by Linux gang
Imagine thinking you’re immune to malware
Nobody is immune to it, but it’s a lot less common for sketchy websites to provide malware downloads specifically targeting Linux PCs. The market share is nonexistent, the average user is more technically inclined, and the desktop environment ecosystem is full of variations that make it difficult to develop a one-size-fits-all solution.
It simply isn’t worth it for most malware creators to focus on Linux desktops. Servers are a different story, but that malware is planted by humans or automated intrustion tools.
That being said, none of this precludes stupidity. If somebody downloads
Oppenheimer-1080p.mkv.exeand opens it in WINE, you can bet your ass that the ransomware malware will do its job just fine.Don’t download shady exes, run ublock origin, force https, use a vpn, and reroute your DNS lookups. It’s super easy to not download viruses and malware.
I agreed with you up to the “use a vpn” part. That’s just wasting money and adding extra steps for the sake of paranoia.
If you’re using SSL/TLS and not blindly bypassing invalid certificate warnings, you’re not going to have your device or accounts compromised by the hacker boogeyman.
My VPN saves me 100s of dollars a year I would otherwise be spending on subscription services.
You have a good reason to use a VPN: bypassing region restrictions (or piracy). The people subscribed to a VPN service for security reasons usually don’t*.
* Excluding those living under a censorship heavy government.
Some VPNs advertise they stop malware so I get why they say that but you’re right.
They hide your browsing from your ISP (and probably your government)
They hide your origin and substitute another for web sites.
I’d say a VPN is only useful to people engaging in crime, or things that look like crime and those buying services that are priced differently around the world
That provide no protection against things you might click on
There are far more uses for a VPN. For instance if I want to access my NAS while outside my home.
Even Windows doesn’t really even need a 3rd party anti-virus anymore. The built in windows defender has gotten so good as to really be all you need for active protection unless you’re insanely stupid and keep bypassing it. Use Malwarebytes for deep file scans once in a blue moon, and you’re golden.
first party antivirus is still antivirus
It’s still not actually needed for experienced users though, I haven’t had a virus in over 10 years, so it hasn’t had anything to catch.
Boy oh boy did it freak the fuck out about the exe I compiled myself from a python script I wrote myself, though. Had to specifically exclude it from defender to stop it from quarantining it every time it ran. All it does is check to see if a link on a website has been updated since last look…
This is the main takeaway that people seem to be missing: follow good computer hygiene, and you’ll be fine.
Keep your shit updated, and don’t download/run things you don’t trust. Keep an unintrusive anti-virus running in the background as a backup just in case there’s a supply chain attack, but don’t rely on it to make your decisions on whether to open a file or not.
golden rules of PC hygine:
don’t use an admin account as your main account
if you haven’t directly triggered it yourself, the answer to that pop-up is “no”
Hate to tell you this, but Linux nor MacOS are safe without AV
It’s just Windows, by far, has the largest share of active systems so everyone targets it. Both MacOS and Linux have their own share of bonafide viruses though
Hate to tell you this, but nuh-uh! My Linux server is just going through a phase where it likes to collect porn ads and share credit card info with Russia!
I don’t even use windows defender. Never had any issues. (My windows PC is primarily for gaming)
Do you have windows 8, 10 or 11?
Defender has been on in the background this entire time and you don’t even know it. It is on by default and incredibly hard to truly disable.
Windows 11. It’s not that hard to completely remove. I have also removed Bluetooth and lots of other non essential functions. There are plenty of tools on GitHub that can do it. You can also just use a custom ISO.
All of them use the wim_uninstall thing, right?
XP is best!
windows defender has gotten so good
It’s only good at detecting windows&office activation tools. I have never ever seen it detect anything other than those.
It’s been good since Windows 7. The reason Windows has so many updates is for security.
Hasn’t a bunch of malware spyware and other malicious shit been found all over decades old Linux stuff the last couple months?
Yeah but antivirus software doesn’t pick up zero days, which is what you should really be concerned about.
I had some Chinese radios a few years ago, they were proper radios that you could program for all sorts of stuff. I had the software on a USB stick, then plugged it in about 5 years later - pinged up with all sorts of viruses that weren’t detected previously.
They don’t pick up anything that they don’t know about, so once the zero day is known the antivirus/malware can find and remove it I thought.
They don’t catch zero-day exploits, as those are vulnerabilities in programs that were discovered to be used in the wild. They will eventually catch the malware dropped through those exploits, though.
IIRC, that was more about auditing the “supply chain” of apps and Linux. Some college kids were purposefully trying to get malware on the mainline Linux repo and obviously got themselves banned from touching Linux.
Linux of course is a target and has malware. It’d be completely stupid of attackers to ignore Linux because the vast majority of servers run it. It’s a readily available target with lots of goodies on those servers.
I don’t think it was just some college kids, I could have sworn their professor was specifically getting his students to perform as bad actors to support some super-biased research papers he was trying to publish.
Yeah but this wasn’t recent, this one was like 4 or 5 years ago unless it happened again. If I remember correctly it got the entire University’s email address banned from contributing to the kernel
Oh yeah, I get what you’re saying. Yeah, two completely separate instances. Although, from the sound of it, there are a surprising number of people who seem to think that sabotaging Linux and hacking Linux are the same thing. I mean, I guess a pirate can sail on any ship, right?
CCleaner also hasn’t been necessary since at least Windows 7. I remember working in a PC repair shop when people would just arbitrarily run CCleaner on its most aggressive settings whether it was needed or not and it would always break more things than it fixed.
I mostly used it to clear out various caches and cookies, and invalid or no longer necessary file type extensions, folders and so on.
Was very handy for that, and usually freed up a surprising amount of disk space (back when a few gigs more or less made a huge difference)
And even if it was, why tf have it open on startup? It should be run like, manually once a month at most.
And almost Every. Fucking. Manufacturer. Installs it as bloatware :/
They get paid to do so. It’s not like they just install McAfee at random.
What do you mean at this point?! It’s been malware for almost two decades!
CCleaner is too nowadays. How far it it has fallen…
I almost felt the same way about MalwareBytes. I know it’s actually useful but it hassled me so much about upgrading to premium that it was more annoying than having actual malware.
Y’all know about changing your startup programs right?
I have almost all apps disabled on startup.
If i want it running i will start it, i assure you.
meanwhile linux users
also who uses epic games
Well I use the website to get the free games. I barely missed any so far and played like 5 of them using Heroic.
Better sales than Steam and free games all the time? What idiot is actively avoiding them?
I actively avoid it on principle. Same with EA, Ubisoft, and Activision. Buy stuff that aligns with your values and don’t cave just because we need to try the shiny new thing.
A few free games every year isn’t enough to get me to forgo any of that.
Helping steam keep its monopoly isn’t much of a principle.
That’s a lot of games I can’t play based on what you’ve said.
“a few free games” it releases a free game every other week basically lol, not that they all are golden eggs but like, that’s a lot of games. I never got the avoid on principle argument, if anything only claiming the freebies is taking more from the company then just pretending it doesn’t exist
Epic pays for the freebies on the expectation that X copies will be redeemed. If more people redeem the game than that, they don’t pay any extra. If less people redeem the game than they paid for, they overpaid (to the benefit of the developer).
I never got the avoid on principle argument
A bullet point summary of why people dislike Epic:
- Epic Games’ CEO, Tim Sweeny, is an absolute knob.
- He acts out the role of the messiah coming to save PC gamers from the Steam “monopoly”
- Epic’s actions demonstrate that he wants to monopolise PC gaming
- Epic has a slide deck (released as part of their Apple lawsuit) that outlines their strategy involving paying influencers to “disrupt organic engagement” in their competitors (specifically, Steam).
- Epic purchased, gutted, and resold Bandcamp.
- Epic, as a company, unethically monitises Fortnite by using dark patterns to trick kids into paying for skins.
- Epic has a tendency to pay for timed exclusivity rights of crowdfunded games as a way to force people onto their platform.
- Epic support is known to often permanently lock your account when compromised, rather than help get it back.
- Tencent is a significant shareholder of Epic. (For those that care)
The “avoiding them out of principle” argument comes from people refusing to be a statistic that benefits the company.
This is not important to many people, but “actively hostile to Linux users”. Like, vocally nasty about it. They’re not only publicly dicks about it, their launcher software self-immolates regularly.
this is my only real annoyance with the out of the entire list that was posted, I dislike that they have zero Linux support at all and go out of their way to disable any type of compatibility layers, the rest while I agree are bad, I don’t see them bad enough to shoot myself in the foot and not grab freebies. I won’t spend money on the platform cause steam is 10000% superior in every area but, free is free
The irony of criticizing epic for wanting to monopolize PC gaming when steam already did that, and did it intentionally from the very beginning as well
I can’t speak for others, but my problem with them isn’t that they want to monopolise PC gaming. It’s the blatant hypocrisy of trying to paint itself as being good for PC gaming while doing so.
A few free games as in games I actually want to play. Claiming freebies makes you access their eco system which makes you a customer whether you spend money or not.
Is this something that I’m too Linux to understand?
The dreaded McAfee clan was a feared invader. They would take over entire societies and constantly knock on peoples doors the monthly taxes, or “renewals” as they would call them. They would install them selves deep into the government and never let go. Coups thereafter would be futile. You had to level entire nations to get rid of them.
Therefore the McAfee’s was known as the worst colonisers in the entire realm.
Wow… It’s such an awesome feeling that I can’t relate to this meme 🥰
Steam and Discord? Yes. Everything else in that image? I think OneDrive and Windows Defender are the only things there that I have installed, and OneDrive is only on my laptop and only used for work purposes.
I don’t understand the whole stigma around OneDrive. People act like it’s bad, but if you set it up right, it acts just like Google Drive or Dropbox or WhateverTheFuckCloudStorage.exe…
The stigma is that windows tries to shove one drive down your throat.
When I first set up windows 10 a while back, they told me that a Microsoft account was required to make it function. I sighed and followed along and then saw how every time I opened the start menu, it’d say “your files are out of sync! Activate OneDrive to make sure your files stay safe.”
It’s a dark pattern. If I wanted OneDrive, I’d install it.
Now I have to jump through hoops anytime I do a fresh windows install to ensure that it allows me to use a local account…which should fucking be the default.
Everything I try to save a file in word it defaults to an old college one drive and I no longer have access so I get an error. Desktop. Just save it to desktop.
Fuck one drive and fuck tying a windows log in to a Microsoft account.
Exactly. And then when you do use it, it suddenly moves all your backed up files into a folder you can’t rename. It’s really wonky. I only use OneDrive because my university gives bulk OneDrive storage for free.
I find it annoying. It pops up with its nag notification to set it up like every day. Just fuck off. If I want it set up I will.
