Don’t they die earlier than average of painful cancers though?
from simple garbage? nahh
Fun fact: the main reason garbage collection is unhealthy is because you spend all day in the fumes of public roads & the truck you’re hanging behind.
Source: was garbage collector for 3 years as student job & we got a small hourly bonus for it.
wasn’t aware, thx
Citation needed
The fact I know this is so real makes it so much stranger lmaooo ;-;
In the previous generation white collar jobs paid more than blue collar ones. That is why… But the world is changing.
Aren’t white-collar jobs less likely to be unionized?
yes, but they also paid much more until recently
And it’s about fucking time.
Well, don’t let your memes be dreams, go out there and make it happen.
Is being a garbage collector, cashier, restaurant worker or other entry level type of jobs something we should constantly be shitting on? Whilst they aren’t the most fancy and thrilling jobs out there, they do offer some freedom in that you do your job and you go home. Is being a doctor really that amazing, years of learning, starting out with a heap of debt from college, then having to work long hours and constantly face stressful situations. The life of a doctor doesn’t sound all that social.
It’s a complex subject. Have to break it down to smaller pieces.
Being a doctor is glorified because there are huge benefits attached. Especially when you think about the benefits for the people around them, such as family and friends. Not to mention the fact that sounding smart can make others feel inadequate in a doctor’s presence. Knowing you are a doctor means that you know how difficult it was to reach it. However, as you mentioned, it is not as beneficial for the individual. Instead, it is beneficial for society, friends, immediate family, and the rich people. Rich people are more emotionally invested to save their ass than leaving an area that got more dirty, bad food, poor service, or painless transaction. With a doctor, he is the only one who you can rely on to save your ass. So no shitting on those jobs makes no sense, but it does make more sense why some are not getting anyone talking shit about. It’s a different extreme, one where there is a lack of shitting on a doctor vs. other jobs.
Didn’t we just do a whole pandemic where a bunch of folks were overflowing with rage for doctors and healthcare workers?
The loud few idoits fucking over the quiet majority.
Doctor can’t get to the hospital to save anyone if there’s a month worth of trash in the streets.
Yes, but people forget about this often and still have social stigma against thrash men. Good luck saving lives by moving the thrash to a giant pile called the landfill(or thrash dump). Can’t save lives without engineers building the tools. Can’t save lives without funding. Can’t save lives without everyone involved. Yet it’s doctors that get idolized as if it’s the perfect and only right path in life.
I recently discussed this with my doctor. The amount of disgusting shit you have to see and work on is insane.
Woah! You got to discuss with your doctor?!
I‘m not sure if that is a serious question. I see my doctor every two weeks for hyposensitization so we get to chat a couple sentences every time. This was the question I came up with.
Haha I’m sorry my playful tone didn’t quite come through here. I was playing up astonishment that you got to actually talk with your doctor about things, because often the experience seems to be that they see you for 30 seconds about why you’re there, maybe write a scrip, and you’re out the door. (I’ve seen some good ones that really make an effort to care though.)
I agree. Thats accurate. Playful tone tends to go over my head (autistic). But thank you very much for elaborating. It was quite obvious in hindsight.
It’s amusing, the foolishness of people who crap on “lesser jobs.” These are the same fools who then throw a fit when everyone listens to them, and nobody sees the point in taking their trash, or serving them their daily ultragrandelatte / whoppermac burger / whatever else.
It’s all propaganda to drive down and excuse low wages.
About overrated cool/sexy jobs:
That’s how I feel about infosec. I still often think “That’d be so awesome, knowing computer sorcery and being a cyber ninja, and knowing my stuff was solid because I could verify it myself. Maybe stopping bad guys from turning vulnerable machines into terrorist-funding cryptominers, exposing spyware…”
But the main earning opportunities seem to be based around checking boxes to secure evil corpos and being on call 24/7 because the ShiJinPing bot swarm got riled up again.
Nah I’m good. I’d rather just learn it as a hobby.
Once computers got all suit-and-tie everything got a lot less interesting.
It’s a shame the “eyes” countries are so gulag-happy. Meaningful hacktivism would sound so rewarding. Bet those folks are all in suits and ties now too. :(
If you don’t study, you will use “either” where “both” is supposed to be used.
I think that “both” would mean “earns more than their salaries combined”, whereas “either” means “earns more than their salaries individually”.
You are right, and I spent my time scrolling lemmy instead of studying.
Derp
garbage collectors have a strong union, do they not?
Yes they do, and their strikes are highly effective for obvious reasons, and no mayor wants that egg on their face.
Or banana peel.
Java’s is out of a job forever because of Oracle
Java’s still a managed environment, and in either case, Rust shows it’s not strictly necessary anyways. Wouldn’t mind some software engineer unions, though.
Sometimes depends on area. The guys at the facility usually don’t.
They’re not collectors though.
They lift heavy stuff and run around all day, they gotta be strong af
Running is not as extreme as you think, a lot of it is just carrying on the momentum of the truck after you jump off, other tham that it’s mostly just brisk walking.
The heavy stuff depends, regulations typically impose a limit on weight but a lot of people don’t follow it. You learn to use proper lifting form quite quickly though or you’ll get a hernia
Src: did it for 3years as student job
By that third year, were you in peak physical condition? 🤔
Funny story actually. After year 1 I was in peak condition, year 2 was normal, year 3 I gained weight. Year 1 I worked slowest and year 3 fastest. I just became way more efficient :p
Depends on location. Some places really screw those guys. It’s a shitty job and should be something people can live comfortably on.
It’s honestly not that shitty of a job (see my earlier comment https://programming.dev/comment/8949488 )
Source: did it as student job for 3 years.
Aaand typically get most of the day off
Gonna put it out there, I’m starting to suspect big garbage has been waging a propaganda war to push us away from the ultimate job
I am an engineer who deals a lot with the waste sector. Garbage, recycling, and feces.
I strongly encourage everyone who is looking for a change or doesn’t know what they want to do to at least consider this stuff. Recession-proof, job security, decent pay, very few and small busy seasons, long vacation time, some really cool people to work with.
There are obvious cons. I don’t enjoy site visits. I deal with a lot of unqualified clients. Fuck Parsons and Jacobs so very hard.
You do need to start work at like 4am though. That’s a deal killer for me.
You get most of the day off after having worked a full day + still need a full and thorough shower + have low energy because it’s a physically demanding job
Src: did it for 3 years as student job
Never been around garbage collectors as an adult have you kid?
I was garbage collector for 3 years as student job.
Not a single person in the company has done such a thing. We did dumb shit all the time but that wasn’t even close. I feel sorry that you decided that 1 person represents a whole industry
Ohh this was not one person, I was part of the team that ran groups of you. As I said OUR lads were wild.
Yeah so whatever company you worked for needed to improve their hiring standards
Yeah my mom told me as a kid that if I quit school I would have to dig ditches for a living. Those guys are union with high pay and good job security because we always need proper drainage just like we always need garbage to go away.
Boomers didn’t describe work to us properly because they wanted to brag to their friends about how we “went to college” and like “are a doctor” or “gonna be the next Bill Gates” or something
The garbage collector has to get up early, go out in most weather, and deal with things we’d rather not deal with, and lift heavy stuff into dangerous machinery all day.
That being said, when I had a similar amount of hard labor to do I got in the best shape of my life.
With the trucks that have the hydraulic arms, this isn’t really true anymore outside of major cities with street parking. I remember growing up you could also just out big bulky items out on trash day (mattresses, toilets, tubs, etc) and they’d take it. Now, at least in my town, you have to schedule bulk pickup, there are limits on how often you can do it (I think my town is no more than like 2 times a month or quarter), and there are restrictions on what can be left for bulk.
Even with the hydraulic arm trucks, they weigh the bin as they pick it up, and will put it back down and leave if its over the weight threshold (meaning you’re throwing away something in your bin you shouldn’t be, and would need to schedule bulk for it).
Oh, the times, they are a-changin’.
Edit: When I lived in Baltimore, it was the old school style system of two guys on the back of the truck running to the curb, grabbing the bin, throwing it in the back, returning it, and hopping back on. Outside of that, I’ve only seen the hydraulic arm ones in suburbia for the last 15+ years.
garbage collecting is seen as dirty and undesirable by society, so for them to want to do it, you have to pay more
in my country they are badly paid anyway though so fuck it lol
Did it as a student job for 3 years. I was paid roughly 50% more than with all other student jobs.
Honestly collecting garbage is not even that bad. I got paid to do fitness all day, spending time outside while chatting with my coworker. The people sorting the trash, that was who we felt bad for. They had all the downsides of the job with none of the benefits.
Sorting trash…goodness… THAT’S a job nobody would mind automating I’m sure.
Especially with how the populace views the trash bin as the “Magic it’s-out-of-my-life box” and throws all sorts of dangerous things in there!
There is a humongous waiting list in pretty much all major cities for those positions
This guy is a garbage picker xD
