• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    “Oh no, all the scum-masters are gone, who will annoy us with their inane babbling now?”

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        23 days ago

        I think that’s probably a good joke, but I haven’t had to suffer corporate culture enough in recent years to understand that.

        Or maybe I’m just too high to be able to

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          23 days ago

          Part of me misses having a job I could do baked out of my gord.

          Most of me is extremely happy that I have a job where I don’t feel the need to be.

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        23 days ago

        Oh it was not a mistake, trust me.

        One once tried showing me a slideshow on what it is they actually do, because the sauna we had for that evening was from their company.

        Guy couldn’t fuckin read the room though and actually went through with his PowerPoint presentation. I couldn’t for the life of me figure out how someone could ignore so many social cues from us, the people who had nothing to do with his work, his company, or any work at all. Purely recreational night and dude starts it with that.

        Yuck yuck yuck

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    23 days ago

    Of course they can’t find them.

    They all shipped out on the (ever-important) Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B.

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    The USA has a bs mythology that it was founded by ‘pioneers’ and that a wild wild west existed. The untold history of the USA is really the story of finance. Those that financed, the joint stock companies that helped to bring immigrants over. The land speculators, and recruiters that brought over Irish and other immigrants over in the 19th century, through money provided by rail and steam companies.
    These type of post-apocalyptic memes perpetuate the stereotype of a self-made country. When in reality financiers from England were offshoring labor to a country with fewer regulations and no copyright/patent laws.

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      A very USA-centric comment. While it is true that countries that were former colonies have their roots tied to those imperialist projects which definitely involved finance, this is not the case for countries that didn’t start as colonies. The sweat of the subsistence farmer or the feudal peasant/slave was what built the foundations of most countries.

      In a truly post-apocalyptic setting there definitely would not be any need for finance of any sort. Job titles such as the one in the meme above are bullshit jobs that only exist to serve modern consumer capitalism. That is to say, they are not necessary. That’s what this meme is about in my opinion.

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        The Renaissance in Italy was paid for by the emerging banking industry, the Medici family is a good example of what happened. If you want large public works, and people like Leonardo da Vinci, then you also get families like the Medici. You can’t separate the two. So not just USA-centric.

        “sweat of the subsistence farmer or the feudal peasant/slave was what built the foundations of most countries”, it was also access to different resources. Mining for silver in some areas, sheep and wool production in others, forestry in others … already by the 13th century the Hanseatic League had a large trade network in most of Europe (from the Mediterranean in N. Italy through Germany into the sea and along the coasts of the North sea and the Baltic sea to Norway Sweden Finland and Russia.

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          Societies did exist before the renaissance, and were a prerequisite for it. Societies existed before the Hanseatic league could conduct trade between them.

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    23 days ago

    I’ve told all the children in the family, Learn how to make a living at least two ways, one with your mind, one with your hands/back. You’ll always have food on the table.

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          23 days ago

          Think about it: What’s the last thing everyone dying from a civilization-ending disease will do? Grab the phone and try to call emergency services.
          All those phones need to be sanitized, or the virus will just spread again.

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          23 days ago

          Do you want our species to die from a disease spread from telephone receivers? Because that’s how you get our species to die from a disease spread from telephone receivers.

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      A few competent project managers would probably help things quite a bit, actually.

      Having a single point of contact for several disparate teams of people doing real work so that they can actually do that work, instead of spending extra time in endless meetings arguing over the best way to implement something that requires multiple people’s input is a valuable tool to have.

      Think of them like a tank in an RPG, taking all the meeting hits that would otherwise decimate the effectiveness of people actually putting the real work in.

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        Valid. Competent is the key word. I’m lucky, in that most of the ones I work with are actually really good, but the ones my colleagues work with (in the same company, different division) might as well have gotten their PMMP certificate out of a cereal box.

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          Oh yeah, Project management is one of those roles that is especially vulnerable to the Peter Principal.

          In order to be a good one, you need to be part therapist and part hostage negotiator while also being one of those weirdos that enjoys meetings

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      What? You won’t pay me to be impatient? That’s bullshit.

      Just get more people working on it and it will get done on time, I’m sure the resources are there, just look at the chart, we cannot afford to delay schedule!

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      Disagree. I’ve worked on some projects that would absolutely fall apart without our PMs. They are vital.

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      23 days ago

      Sorry to disappoint, but landlording as a profession is the likeliest to thrive in a post apocalyptic medium.

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        But without the laws that protect them, we’ll be free to throw them all in the garbage

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          Yes but what is most likely to happen is that some violent mofos will take over large territories and make up their own rules and (…)

          Which is what happened the last time there was a societal collapse.

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              You don’t think indigenous people fought their own battles for their land? That they also fought to keep that land?

              Do you seriously think every nation was magically given to people without warfare deciding who kept it?

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          It won’t. The new landlords however will get to make their own rules about how to handle their unregulated ownership.

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      I just found out that my landlord doesn’t have a job besides the income from properties. Fucking parasite still won’t fix basic shit

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    I find it amazing that finance, sales, etc are held in such high regard when it’s science and technology that advance society.

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        23 days ago

        I mention farming below. Plumbing, well depends on population. We can shit in the field like we did for millennia. It’s just fertilizer.

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          Also a Cholera breeding ground. Which is why for centuries more people died in cities than were born, despite having no access to contraception.

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            Depends on population level. Don’t need plumbing until towns get to the size that outhouses don’t work. Just need soap to wash our hands.

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            That’s where the science and technology comes in.

            Also, isn’t plumbing a technology? Or does it have to be in the Civ VI Technology tree to be recognised as one? I know Agriculture and Animal Husbandry is

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      Most scientific and engineering skills would also be useless if civilization collapses. For example, I am a scientific software developer. Most of my work has been for medical research, which is something people tend to respect. However, I wouldn’t be able to do anything useful with numerical modelling in a survival situation. My limited skills as an amateur home renovator would be far more relevant.

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          It’s a bit like Maslows hierarchy of needs. First we need food and water and plumbing. When we are secure in those needs, society can take the next step. But the basis of security must be there before advancement

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            I would say we need hygiene, which is different than plumbing. Plumbing comes into play when we have cities large enough that we can’t rely on outhouses.

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        To be fair, most professions that would be needed to survive in an apocalypse or rebuild society, aren’t things that an already functioning modern society can support everyone doing anyway. We need farmers and carpenters and such, but we don’t need so many as to have openings for a majority of the population to be them, these days.

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    One of the ways I try to sell my trade to students, is telling them how important it is for the world. Machining, welding, plumbing, carpentry and so on. All of it would be primus motor to get society back.

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      Yes! The importance of craftsmen is hard to overstate😀 Along with a few others, of course!

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        I think, that I might find a better alternative. Like scrap, granite and cast iron.

        In a pinch, make a bow drill style lathe using a branch and a rope.