not really. there is no good way for people to know what bots are available. if they had a bots section in the settings where you could turn them on then maybe.
The bots are not tools to help us stay informed. They are irritating as all hell. There was a thread recently about the media bias bot and it got utterly slated. It needs to die.
Considering you seem to dislike the whole concept of Bots, isn’t the Bot toggle in the Lemmy profile exactly what you want?
It auto ignores all posts and comments made by accounts marked as Bots. Sure, the owner of the account has to correctly mark it, but I feel that can easily be solved by reporting unmarked bots.
But I’m interested, if you would like to expand on it, how would you make a bot opt-in?
The only way I could think of is through PMs, but that would be cumbersome, and generally unfit for purpose, for all the involved parties.
I don’t hate all bots. I very much enjoyed the ones on reddit that corrected people’s grammar 😆 If it’s not possible to make a bot opt in, then a bot as unpopular as this one should simply be switched off.
Ah, I see. We should just pass all bots through you for approval first.
Sorry, everyone else. I know some of you liked that bot, but wazoobonkerbrain doesn’t, so it’s switched off due to “popularity reasons”. If you want to experience open internet, you’ll have to find somewhere else.
Whether they are effective or not is definitely in question, but they are unquestionably intended to be informative. If they irritate you, you have the ability to exercise your right to block them.
You being annoyed at something you don’t like isn’t a reason to not have it.
Whether they are effective or not is definitely in question, but they are unquestionably intended to be informative.
There is a big difference between “informative” and “unsuccessfully intended to be informative” and the latter ought not to exist.
If they irritate you,
It ain’t just me. I’m too lazy to dig it up but there was a recent thread about the media bias bot and the loathing was near unanimous. The objections were qualitative, e.g. the fallacy of using one biased web site to determine whether another web site is biased.
you have the ability to exercise your right to block them.
Opt in is better than opt out. Rather than asking every user who hates the bot (i.e. most users) to block it, better to provide something that can be subscribed to by those who want it.
You being annoyed at something you don’t like isn’t a reason to not have it.
That thread was filled with people downvoting anyone who even attempted to disagree. It was also full of people claiming bias and then not backing it up with a single source, link to offending pages, etc. so yeah no wonder it was full of people saying they hated it. Anyone who said otherwise (like myself) got fucking reamed.
This user is literally lying about what the thread contains! holy shit the level of gaslighting and misinformation is insane! How can you function!?!?!
I rarely had that problem from the bot. Reading from it at least gave me more information and saved me a click without having to be bombarded with cookie notices and requests to subscribe to a newsletter.
I liked auto tldr bot why not just let people block it themselves if they dont like it.
Opt in is better than opt out
BUT U CANT OPT IN
EASY ON THE CAPS LOCK
You can opt in to not seeing the bots.
not really. there is no good way for people to know what bots are available. if they had a bots section in the settings where you could turn them on then maybe.
So… how do I opt in to see the bot in the comments?
Ahh you see they pulled a sneaking in ya. You can’t its simply deflecting from the argument.
Its not deflecting, its the correct answer. Just because something isnt implemented yet, doesnt mean its an invalid solution.
When it comes to tools that help you stay informed, I’d say the opposite is true.
If one wants to maintain ignorance, they should have to do so at their own inconvenience.
The bots are not tools to help us stay informed. They are irritating as all hell. There was a thread recently about the media bias bot and it got utterly slated. It needs to die.
Considering you seem to dislike the whole concept of Bots, isn’t the Bot toggle in the Lemmy profile exactly what you want?
It auto ignores all posts and comments made by accounts marked as Bots. Sure, the owner of the account has to correctly mark it, but I feel that can easily be solved by reporting unmarked bots.
But I’m interested, if you would like to expand on it, how would you make a bot opt-in?
The only way I could think of is through PMs, but that would be cumbersome, and generally unfit for purpose, for all the involved parties.
I don’t hate all bots. I very much enjoyed the ones on reddit that corrected people’s grammar 😆 If it’s not possible to make a bot opt in, then a bot as unpopular as this one should simply be switched off.
You have no measurement of any bot’s popularity. You’re just making the claim without proof.
Ah, I see. We should just pass all bots through you for approval first.
Sorry, everyone else. I know some of you liked that bot, but wazoobonkerbrain doesn’t, so it’s switched off due to “popularity reasons”. If you want to experience open internet, you’ll have to find somewhere else.
how is it irratating. takes up almost no space. sounds to me like folks are angry they think other people will use it.
Whether they are effective or not is definitely in question, but they are unquestionably intended to be informative. If they irritate you, you have the ability to exercise your right to block them.
You being annoyed at something you don’t like isn’t a reason to not have it.
There is a big difference between “informative” and “unsuccessfully intended to be informative” and the latter ought not to exist.
It ain’t just me. I’m too lazy to dig it up but there was a recent thread about the media bias bot and the loathing was near unanimous. The objections were qualitative, e.g. the fallacy of using one biased web site to determine whether another web site is biased.
Opt in is better than opt out. Rather than asking every user who hates the bot (i.e. most users) to block it, better to provide something that can be subscribed to by those who want it.
Sure it is.
That thread was filled with people downvoting anyone who even attempted to disagree. It was also full of people claiming bias and then not backing it up with a single source, link to offending pages, etc. so yeah no wonder it was full of people saying they hated it. Anyone who said otherwise (like myself) got fucking reamed.
Here’s the thread that’s full to the brim with evidence of bias. Read it for yourself instead of listening to this liar.
Here’s the thread that’s full to the brim with evidence of bias. Read it for yourself instead of listening to the liar that replied to you.
This user is literally lying about what the thread contains! holy shit the level of gaslighting and misinformation is insane! How can you function!?!?!
Which tool is helping us stay informed?
Was that the bot that just cut paragraphs from an article to shorten them, mangling context beyond comprehension in the process?
I rarely had that problem from the bot. Reading from it at least gave me more information and saved me a click without having to be bombarded with cookie notices and requests to subscribe to a newsletter.
Just use archive.org! At least then you’re not getting an AI hallucinated “summary” of the article.
I did like it when the site was pay walled