I remember when the South Park drama happened, and Matt and Trey were both like “you guys realize he’s been in every single episode for months now, right? He’s in the intro. It’s only an issue now because we had him as a focus of the episode.”
I dunno, that “other” group of fanatics isn’t in charge of the two largest nuclear arsenals in the world, so I’d dispute them being “far more dangerous.”
You could literally be talking about anyone lmao
Unless logic were to exist
Really? Besides Muhammad, name 1 other well known person who showing a benign picture of him causes a real risk of getting killed by his fans?
Dream? Or attractive female VTuber personae that are actually played by men?
Huh?
Dream is [was?] a very popular Minecraft YouTuber/streamer, particularly among youths. He had been known for having not revealing his face, and when he finally did, some parasocial megafans did not see the deified person they had hoped for and instead just saw a regular looking dude. Many non-fans also took advantage of this disparity and mocked his looks. There are [were?] probably some self-described Dream fanatics who would assume any real life picture of him is an affront to their parasocial deity.
The same parasocial elements could be assumed for lonely viewers of VTubers, if they are shown that the “man behind the curtain,” so to speak, does not line up with the fictional character that they are presented.
I don’t know about you, but I’ve seen quite a number of vtuber face reveals, every singe one is shockingly sexy
At this point its a bit of a meme in the community that all vtubers are automatically hot
Who cares though. Why do we put so much more power in the hands of people who are only more physically attractive?
The fans of some streamer are not going to kill you.
name 1 other well known person who showing a benign picture of him causes a real risk of getting killed by his fans?
I’ve gotta say, I know quite a few Muslims and I can’t think of one who would so much as take a swing at me for running around in a big t-shirt with Muhammad’s face on it. Meanwhile, I can think of a few people who would take a swing at me if I was wearing, say, Osama Bin Laden.
How DARE you speak that name with even the slightest link to derision! I mean, erm, Jar Jar Binks.
Muhammad is SCP-096 confirmed.
Noooooo you forgot the (PBUH) when you mentioned Muhammad (PBUH), now I will have to kill you :( look what you made me do
Don’t worry, i was actually taking about Muhammad Ali
You shall be spared this time Mashallah
Well I don’t know if you heard but there’s this orange deranged guy.
Showing a benign picture of him won’t get you killed.
Does this narrow it down better? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting
Sure, but we can’t talk about that, it’d be “bigoted” so instead let’s just blame the Jews again
This type of comment is always hilarious to me. We’re talking about it right now. Nobody has been called bigoted. It’s fine.
Fuck off, all religions are fucking stupid and need to die. They have no place in human civilization anymore. It is time to move on.
Isreal is a religious ethnostate, in the same way most of the middle east is, in the same way large swaths of the bible belt try (and many times succeed) to be.
The only difference between these three is the amount of money and leeway they’re given to enact their stupid bullshit. Its time the adults in the room stopped putting up with it.
Have you considered public office? You’d have my vote
I need explainxkcd.com, but for memes.
Je suis Charlie.
Mohamed. For reference search it+ South Park
KnowYourMeme.com is the closest i could think of. Maybe combined with urbandictionary.com
There have been several violent incidents in reaction to published depictions of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, which is strictly forbidden by some interpretations of the Sahih al-Bukhari, one of the major Sunni Islamic texts.
I’m assuming that’s what’s being alluded to here.
But like, that’s stupid they don’t expect us to eat halal why do they expect us not to depict their prophet?
It’s not every muslim. Only the bigoted/loudest ones. Just like not every christian intimidates you to accept Jesus as your savior.
To be fair, their respective prophets seem to have differing tastes for violence. At least, it’s a long way from paradise lies in the shade of swords (Hadith 2818) to those who live by the sword die by the sword (Matthew 28:52).
In practice, all religious texts are selectively applied or creatively interpreted to support a people’s current need or preference, be it war or peace. Most Muslims now interpret jihad as an internal struggle with the self, for example. But to the extent that the words themselves can make peace more or less difficult, there’s a gap between those two Abrahamic religions.
Basically they managed to convince a lot of people that drawing Mohammad is hate speech, while obviously such depictions do exist (especially those that also conflate having an Arabic decent with Islamism), it’s just certain fundamentalists won the free marketplace of ideas through bullying and terrorism.
Despite all the legitimate critiques, it was a mistake to succumb, now Christian fundamentalists are trying the same, see the overreaction to the Olympics.
now Christian fundamentalists are trying the same, see the overreaction to the Olympics.
I’m OotL on the Shitlympics intentionally, what are the big babies crying about now?
People want to claim the drag performance was making fun of “The Last Supper” and the Gojira concert was “satanic”.
People want to claim the drag performance was making fun of “The Last Supper”
By their own statements, that was their actual intention though.
No it wasn’t. It was an homage to a French painting of Greek gods having a bacchanal.
Drag queens in the opening ceremony
Because Religion = Logic - Religion
Oh, yes I do remember that incident, but I never would have connected it with Yoda etc. Thanks.
Is it Jimmy Saville?
No, it’s Rolf Harris.
Linux users
Who would Linux users murder if you showed a picture of… who exactly?
Linus Tolvards with a T-shirt saying “I love NVidia”
LiNuX bAD
More like WiNdoWs bAd.
🤓
Windows is a huge piece of shit. I tried to deny it for a long time but I was wrong. And it’s only getting worse.
wINdOwS bAd 🤓
nOn-CoRpOrAtE OpTioNs BaD
Nobody made that point nerd.
nerd
Says the person on Lemmy who tries to start a fight about Linux people.
There once was a post on the Onion about a caricature of Christian, Judaist, Hindu and Buddhist gods having an orgy and no believers wishing death upon the author, but sighing and closing the tab instead.
There was one with mohammed included too in a french satirical paper, but it was sometimes in the -70 or -80. Much cooler times.
…didn’t that French newspaper then much later end up getting shot up?
I think it’s the same but I’m not sure. The shooting was like 40 years later though so not relevant to the mohammed orgy images.
It was shot up by people who were mad that the journal was regularly doing drawings like that.
Yes but that was 30-40 years later.
It’s not that specific drawing, it’s that they still make drawings like it regularly.
12 people were gunned down for publishing a cartoon of Muhammad.
A teacher was beheaded for showing a drawing of Muhammad.
Cartoonist drew Muhammad, leading to Danish embassies being attacked and riots broke out and people died. Later, people broke into his house to try to kill him.
Cartoonist had to live under police protection because of threats.
Creators of South Park were threatened for including Muhammad in an episode of the show.
Salman Rushdie was stabbed on stage
A teacher forced into hiding for showing a picture of Muhammad
I don’t care if you want to claim all religions are equally capable of violence.
There is only one religion I’m deathly afraid of pissing off if I choose to criticize them publicly.
And here I thought it was Jar Jar Binks.
Even the Far Side got in on the act
There was a time in Europe where it was illegal to draw something to realistic thanks to the church.
There was also a time when it was believed that Jesus, being perfect, was incapable of change. It’s why so many old paintings of Jesus look like middle aged babies; They believed that Jesus was born with an adult’s body, just baby-sized. Cuz if he was perfect, there would be no room for change. So lots of old paintings of Jesus have him looking like a tiny middle aged man.
I love that he has a receding hairline there. Also that’s a bit old of a look for a man who died at like 30
That was like getting to 60 in today’s terms
You’re probably joking but if you’re not, this idea pisses me off.
The average is skewed by childhood mortality at birth or due to childhood diseases and birth defects. If you made it to 20 in the Bronze Age and weren’t killed by violence, there’s a damn good chance you’d hit 60 or 70 years old.
It’s even referenced in the Bible, showing that the writers had a good idea of the maximum human lifespan even back then.
[Genesis 6:3] Then the LORD said, “My spirit shall not abide in mortals forever, for they are flesh; their days shall be one hundred twenty years.”
Well also there were the Romans. I imagine being conquered ages you at least a decade.
😊 <- TIL this is the only known picture of the Prophet Muhammad
You could just write his name…