cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18420202
Since when is sharpening kitchen knives obscure? Have you guys never used a sharp knife before? Are you cutting food with dangerous and dull knives??
I recently got a set of knives that are sharper than I have ever seen, though one is kinda dull. I plan on sharpening it soon, just waiting on getting my wetstones in the mail.
Are you cutting food with dangerous and dull knives??
Probably yes because:
- It was sharp at some point in the past, so I “bookmarked” it in my mind as a “sharp” object, but I always fail to update my “bookmarks”.
- I’m lazy.
I might be lazy, but I’ve only cut myself on dull knives. The stress of using a dull knife when doing prep drives me insane and motivates me to sharpen them
Wetshaving seems fancy but honestly its the cheapest, fastest and best way to shave, that i have found.
In my experience it’s also the best way to show up at the office with a bloody neckline
You just need to shave with the grains (this may vary a lot from face to face) and you should never slide the blade sideways
I’ve tried many things, but still getting many small wounds. With the grain doesn’t get as close a shave.
i use safety razors bc they are very inexpensive. also less environmental impact.
my neck has a sensitive spot where if I’m rushing, it will definitely bleed. but if I’m careful and use light pressure and don’t go against the grain it’s fine.
Everyone who shaves, regardless of gender and razor type, should have a styptic pencil. It stops bleeding like magic.
Beyond that, shaving with a safety razor is different because you’re never supposed to apply pressure - idk if that’s something you were doing.
I have a block of aluin, which I think is the same thing? It helps, but it isn’t magic. I’m not applying pressure, but still I get many very small wounds.
Alum blocks are similar but different, it’s worth looking into getting a styptic pencil or at least researching the differences.
Hmmm, what handle are you using? The common suggestion I’ve seen is to get a vintage Gillette tech off of eBay. It’s nigh impossible to cut yourself with one of those, and they’re usually around $10-$15.
The issue isn’t so much that I’m cutting myself, but that I end up with multiple very small wounds, roughly the size of a hair/hairsack. Like my shave is just a little too close?
I have an adjustable handle, Merkur 50C I believe. I set it to the least aggressive setting, and am trying all different brands of blades, but so far there’s little difference.
If you don’t know how to shave properly sure
It does take a little practice, like anything worth doing. You save a ton of money (disposable razor blades cost pennies) and you aren’t throwing away all of that plastic.
I got my safety razor in 2011. I’m not sure if I’ve spent twenty dollars in blades since. Best investment ever.
I spent $20 on blades in 2018, it was for a pack of 200 and I haven’t even gone through a quarter of them
Why is an image of someone sharpening a kitchen knife called “obscure and outdated”? Is everyone out there just using shitty dull knives now? Lol
I know people who just throw them out and buy new knives when they dull, so there’s also that 😔
Seriously? Just throwing out practically brand new knives is a thing now? Decent knives will last for decades if you sharpen them a few times a year lol
Not everyone knows about Vimes’ Boots Theory:
The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. … A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. … But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
Vimes was always my favorite Discworld character lol
Good knives will last multiple generations.
Apparently. I complemented them on their knives and they said they just got them cause their old ones were getting dull.
Told them to let me know next time, and I’d take them. I may be a bad friend as I did not disclose that knives could be sharpened lol.
I would absolutely take their old knives lol next time they come to your house make sure to use them to prepare a meal
Offer to take them, and then go pick them up with your sharpener. Sharpen them there. Test their sharpness. Then take the knives. Obviously don’t be smarmy about it, but friends don’t let friends throw money down the garbage disposal. I bet a lot of people would genuinely appreciate learning how to save some cash on knives. Even shitty Walmart kitchen knives are expensive enough to make a $50 work sharp bench stone worthwhile
Doesn’t even need to be that nice. A $10 knife sharpener that you can buy at Walmart ten steps from the knives is more than enough for anyone who doesn’t particularly care.
It’s not gonna do a great job, but it’ll keep the knife sharp enough until it’s dinged, chipped or worn away.For sure. I’m just speaking from my experience that 1 good knife sharpener is the very best dollar to performance ratio purchase you will ever make and the work sharp bench stone is priced low enough to be, potentially, both the first and last knife sharpener someone ever buys. And man… some shitty walmart knives are just the things to learn how to use it with. They’re made of enough real steel that they won’t flex like the crap you get at the grocery store, but they’re also crappy enough that they won’t retain an edge for very long and you’ll get some practice in with them. And a set of walmart knives is about $30 meaning if someone is rebuying walmart kitchen knives once a year, after 3 years they will have saved money (and material waste), not to mention some sickos out there are going to enjoy it. I don’t enjoy sharpening knives, but I know of people who do actually get satisfaction from it.
But yes. If it’s between buying bad knives every year, or buying bad knives and a bad sharpener and getting by for 2 years, the bad knives and the bad sharpener WILL save you money.
Oh no, they’ll use crappy blunt knives for a few years.
And they’ll keep them in a drawer and cut on plates and glass “cutting boards.”
I just realized why my pizza cutters never last long…
Ugh. I went through that for years with my sister. I finally got together with my brother in law and we surreptitiously threw away all the glass cutting boards after I was getting really tired of hearing her constantly bitching about all her knives being “crap.” This was such a tooth pulling exercise because she absolutely would not allow anyone to put two and two together for her. In her mind, all the knives constantly being dull was everyone else’s fault.
Somehow I simultaneously “don’t know what I’m talking about,” but I’m also specifically asked to bring my entire kit every time I visit so I can sharpen every piece of cutlery in the house. Since apparently I’m the only one who can do it properly. Hmm.
I had a roommate like that once! She insisted on using a glass cutting board and would never get rid of the damned thing… Apparently she couldn’t chop onions without having a copy of a Van Gogh painting underneath them lol
I would just use dull knives if not for the people in my life who sharpen them. The sound of knife-sharpening burrows into my brain and shuts off all rational thought. It’s like tinfoil on teeth for me and I cannot deal with it.
Luckily, my husband enjoys it, so he just does it when I’m not home.
I knew someone who would replace their knives every year or two after they were dangerously dull. He called me a sucker for buying a nicer set, and it never occurred to him that they could be sharpened and reused.
It’s getting bad out here.
It’s getting bad out here.
You haven’t seen anything yet. If you have teacher friends, ask them how the new generation is doing 💀 they haven’t learned almost anything since COVID started and have virtually no social skills on top of it… I’m legit scared for the future.
The whole COVID made the kids dumb is just the newest excuse in a long line. Before that it were phones, computers, calculators and probably a lot more. My kids are from the new generation, and they’re doing just fine.
So just like every generation before us then…? Socrates 400 BC:
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
CHILDREN CROSSED THEIR LEGS!!!1!!!11!!! what an abomination!
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Every year or two??? That’s just when a new knife is finally getting broken in lol I’ve got knives my parents bought before I was born that I still use!
We’re talking real low grade, picked up at walmart knives. Unlikely they would last like that anyway, but absolutely refused to spend more than like $10 on a chef knife because they were treated as disposable.
If they won’t even pay more than $10 then whatever they bought probably already needed sharpening straight out of the box lol
Aren’t those still made from steel? There should be nothing preventing you('re friend) from sharpening them.
Even the cheapest knife is still going to last many, many years of normal use. Most my knifes are super cheap actually. But they are super sharp, so who cares?
For me, if it doesn’t come with a sharpener build into the sheath, it’s not good enough quality anyway. Ive moves a dozen times over a decade and lost pieces of so many silverware sets they’re disposable to me. Never had a knife long enough to NEED to reharpen it. Got a few nicer ones now though so maybe that will change.
I know, right? Sharpening things like knives and scissors is what I consider to be a basic maintenance skill. You don’t even need to go all out on it. Just owning a basic Spyderco Sharpmaker or WorkSharp Precision Adjust will let you sharpen a lot of things.
It’s also a given that many knives that you buy simply aren’t as sharp from the factory as they can and SHOULD be. A little effort can get you a lot better cutting performance.
I suppose the reason behind it is also that your average person thinks that ‘sharp knives are dangerous’ when in reality it’s dull knives that cause the most issues. When a supermarket chain here sold knives, people complained that the knives were too sharp! Can you imagine?
…maybe…
Well, if you don’t have time or don’t want to learn about knife sharpening my advice is to get a cheap pull through sharpener for your kitchen knives. They’re super easy to use and will add years to the usefulness of your knives. It doesn’t work as well as doing a full sharpening, but it will get them cutting well again at least!
Are these the ones with the angled V shaped thingy? I have one where you put the knife through three different coarseness levels and it works good enough for me. I’m sure I’d fuck the blade up with real ones.
Yes that is it! They work great for any standard kitchen knife, but you wouldn’t want to use them on any kind of fancy blades with a special grind angle or anything
They usually look something like this:
Yes! It’s almost exactly like that. I only use it to sharpen a couple of “nicer” kitchen knives I use for cooking, we don’t even bother with butter knives or other ones, and the cooking ones are decent (German) but nothing crazy either.
I need to sharpen my knives
If y’all still out there shaving with cartridge razors you’re wasting so much money on getting a shittier shave.
But, yeah, “Art of Manliness” and their ilk do try to capitalize on a call to return to old fashion things by selling jazzed up overpriced safety razors and brushes.
You don’t need fancy shit to get a better cheaper shave.
Until the TSA lifts restrictions on blades, cartridge razors will continue to be a necessary evil in my kit. However, there are so many better options for your home, as you say. The shown safety razor style is perfectly fine, and so much less expensive, even if you don’t go all in with a solid soap and brush, and just use a normal shave cream like Creamo.
Its inclusion here is absurd. Cartridge shavers are shitty for the environment, and shitty for your wallet; they’re not less manly, they’re just a less smart choice.
What about electric?
If they work for you, great! I’ve never owned one that shaved anywhere nearly as close as a blade, or that I didn’t have to use twice a day if I wanted to be clean-shaven in the evening. Plus, I don’t particularly find them comfortable, or precise; they’re all a little bit like using fine-grain sandpaper.
But everyone is different, and if you like the shave, you’re fortunate.
For years I carried a AA battery powered one in my glove compartment for emergencies, like when I was in a rush and had to shave on the road. It was an absolutely horrible shaver, but better than the alternative. I only used it a couple of times within ten years, so I stopped doing that.
Now that’s interesting, I’ve gotten guff for flying with a safety razor but I’ve never had it confiscated or been denied entry to the flight.
I’ve flown with a safety razor many times with a blade installed in it and nobody’s ever seemed to notice or care. I don’t tend to travel with extra blades, though – one will do me for a week or whatever, no problem.
Largely same. Though once flying from Houston International to JFK a TSA agent started saying I couldn’t bring a blade onto an aircraft and she wanted to take the handle itself. I started to protest trying to negotiate her only confiscating the blade when a massive man wearing a 10 gal hat, a mustache that connected to his mutton chops and, most importantly, a big shiny badge said in a broad Texan accent “Now, Missy, how you gonna take a man’s razor? You want him to grow whiskers and folks call him kitty? Go on now, get on your flight!”
The TSA is bizarre.
They’re not allowed in carry-on. I’ve gotten through a check point with a blade on once, but I’ve also been pulled out and asked to verify there’s no blade. It’s low risk because all you lose is some time and you might have to toss a blade. But then I’m left with a useless razor until I can find a pharmacy to buy whatever crappy generic blades they have, which I then have to dial in for aggressiveness, and it’s just way more trouble than it’s worth.
When I was heavy business traveling, it was absolutely not worth it, because I didn’t pad my airport arrival and boarding time by many minutes, and getting pulled out for a check meant I’d have to run for the gate. Plus, I’d have to make time during the trip to find a pharmacy, pay for an Uber to go get blades. Not worth it.
On the much more rare occasion that I an checking a bag, like for a longer trip, sure; I’ll pack a safety razor or shavette, but then I worry about light-fingered TSA inspectors. Anything stolen from your luggage, you’re never getting back. I have a couple of cheap-o safety’s I wouldn’t mind losing, but they’re not my favorite shaves either.
All in all, for traveling, I just take cartridge razors. It’s easier.
Wait, TSA throws a fit over razor blades in checked baggage? I can understand they deny it in carry-on but down in the hold?
No. Checked is OK, but most of my trips are entirely carry-on. I almost never check bags, unless I’m going on vacation. I did, however, once lose a nice pocket knife because I forgot to put it in my checked bag before getting on an early AM return flight, and had to give it to the bin, so I still avoid taking things that could get confiscated if I mispack them during the trip.
I don’t know about you, but my outbound packing is pristine; by the time I’m coming home after a couple of weeks, it’s a toss-up where anything is.
I’m only flying in Europe but have heard stories about the TSA being quite random with it’s rules, so I wouldn’t be too surprised to learn they do not allow them in checked baggage.
And loosing stuff at the security check really sucks.
Lately, my wife’s been doing now international travel than I have, and she reports that foreign airport security for flights to the US are far more strict than domestic flights. For example, TSA in the US is pretty loosey-goosey about the liquids rules - not the amounts, but having everything in ziplock bags that can be closed. I haven’t put my liquids in ziplocks for a domestic flight in years, but foreign security enforcing the TSA checks are anal-retentive about stuff like that.
Part may be because we’ve had pre-check since it first came out, so I may just be seeing only the less strict rules of pre-check, but I suspect the US is just more strict with airport security for incoming, non-domestic flights, and foreign airports are just doing what TSA is demanding, to the letter.
Heathrow, Charles de Gaulle, and MUC’s security are way more lax than any US airport. Where they get strict is when you get to the gates for the US flights and have to go through security - TSA, this time - a second time. The only airport I thought had general security as strict as a US airport was Singapore, and their TSA at-gate security is insane. Dubai, too. Only airport I’ve been in where the entire gate for a flight was enclosed in glass, like a snake terrarium. And god forbid you wanted to go back out for food or something, because you had to go through that TSA checkpoint again. I hate flying through Dubai to get home.
You can get really good vintage razors off eBay for next to nothing. If you don’t wanna gamble on that, you can get a stainless steal 3 piece razor for a little over $15. Even the Wilkinson sword will save you money vs a cartridge razor while also being a shitty, not very durable, de razor
Hi! I’m wondering what’s wrong with AoM? I always liked that they had really nice vintage (fucking love vintage stuff lol) looking skill booklets that I could use or learn from. I haven’t been there in a loooonnnng time though, so I’m curious if I’ve missed something?
A lot of the shaving gear has a HUUUUGE markup for that vintage look. You can get it way cheaper direct from the manufacturer.
i still use the same no frills safety razor handle i got from target ~2015. and the 100 pack of astra blades i got for $10 lasted until just recently
can’t believe how much money i blew on bullshit gillette crap for so long
Yup! Astra blades are less than 10¢ each if you buy a 100 pack
With the exception to the rolex and “10 things she wants to see you wear”, I like the things here.
When you drive the the circus and all the clowns are dead
I use a pair of bose like that when I’m at work. The Noise Cancelling is really good.
“Alpha”
Okay, but knife sharpening is not outdated since everyone that cooks needs sharp knives. Bad choice. Shoulda been something like starting fires with wood friction.
Not everyone needs a progressively finer set of 18 whetstones so they can meditate for 2 hours every week as they sharpen. A honing steel and a basic pull through sharpener are adequate for home cooks.
Well, since the meme doesn’t mention anything about even multiple stones, much less 18, that’s just you being weird.
Also, yeah, you can use those two things. Wouldn’t recommend either for a decent quality knife, but they’ll keep things at a bare minimum of usability. Swap them for a ceramic rod and a single 1k whetstone, and you’ve got better results with less wear of the blade over time, just with an initial learning curve.
The only problem with pull throughs is that they fuck up knives with repeated use, pulling off more metal than necessary. Well, that and you don’t want to try any delicate work with a knife that’s been sharpened that way, it just won’t slice finely enough for fancy shit. You’ll be able to get through damn near everything else in the kitchen though.
Seriously, dude, if this is some kind of pet peeve of yours, be aware that nobody gives a shit when your comment is making a mountain out of a place where there wasn’t even a molehill.
And, frankly, you come off as being an absolute asshole in your comment, so there’s that too.
I sharpen my knives with a grit block maybe every 6 months, because I want sharp knives, but was told an angle sharpener would leave me with BBQ skewers.
It’s hardly a “masterful man task”, more like 20 minutes to do a kitchen chore. Like refilling the dishwasher salt. Or cleaning the bin.Yeah, it really doesn’t fit the meme at all.
Rolex 🙄 no thanks. Not interested in overpriced, obsolete jewelry. Let’s just call it what it is 🤷🏼♀️ Casio digital, ftw 🙌🏼 bc I actually like to know what time it is.
Haven’t purchased cologne since I was probably like 20. Dudes really go ape shit over that creed stuff, ay?
Casio sucks now, sadly. The bands especially are abysmal quality.
Depends heavily on the sub-category of Casio. I have a Lineage (Wave Ceptor?), it’s a great watch for pretty much every day.
You can’t tell the time off a normal clock face, got it
Say what you will, but that’s a nice looking jacket.
You could even say it is bespoke
And above all, everything is brown for some reason.
Can we start making websites/forums devoted to just regular individual wholesome dudes and characterize them as peak masculinity?
When I was a kid my dad would take his morning shit while the door was open and it stank up the hallway not to mention the visual image of it all prior to breakfast. So one day I closed the door from outside and he yelled at me full volume that he wanted the door open so I had to go back and reluctantly open it.
That’s peak masculinity
peak masculinity /j
chat, is this real?
Yeah
Yeah
Happened right before their debate. Why it went the way it did.
💯% real
Sure, all of that and then you go out with an half windsor, like a schoolboy
