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      “Because Biden is currently committing genocide and Trump only may commit genocide you shouldn’t vote for Biden”

      That’s more or less the exact meme.

      It’s a great way to put a fascist in power voluntarily just because you don’t like the war crimes of the government in power.

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        “fascist” doesn’t mean anything deeper than “asshole” anymore if Trump is one and Biden ain’t.

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            Someone doesn’t. A lot of people don’t, it seems. Saying shit like “fascists hate government” and various other non sequiturs.

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                Not if you use the words actual meaning. In which case Justin Trudeau is and Trump is just a fucking asshole/criminal.

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                    No, I just know what words mean and have a fairly decent knowledge of policy each has championed. Trumps never passed legislation restricting free speech, actively combined government and corporate power in a very Mussolini way, frozen his political opponents bank accounts and removed the need for probable cause in exchange for the whim of the police. Trudeau has.

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          One tried to overthrow democracy in America because he didn’t like the results. This false equivalency bullshit don’t work anymore after Trump.

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            “I believe everything on CNN”. It’s been nothing but false equivalency, Biden is literally doing all the shit people claimed to be scared Trump would.

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              Swing and a miss. NPR(and by proxy, BBC) and Al Jazeera mostly, with some social media articles where I am extremely critical of the source.

              Trump was also doing the things we were scared trump would, the whole fucking time. Has been caught red handed, lied flagrantly, and suffered zero consequences because his cronies wouldn’t punish him. Either time has allowed you to forget exactly who the definitive worst option is, or you’re a lost cause Trump worshipper actively trying to push us closer to literal fascism.

              I’ll give you that I wish there were a better democrat candidate than Biden, and I doubt I will be alone wishing that as I vote for him. Because Jesus Christ, the alternative was and is obviously so much worse.

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                  I am also angry one of our allies that we are currently arming is committing genocide. Trump absolutely will not fix that. Rather, he will enable a 2nd genocide of Ukraine, given that he had tried to militarily weaken them after he was colluding with their oppressors.

                  I am livid that my choice is for a candidate that stands for 1 genocide, and one that stands for 2.

                  But I guess nothing matters to you people. You say you don’t like genocide, but act in a way likely to increase the amount of genocides and the death toll.

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                We have to support the genocide over there so we don’t have a genocide over here!

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                  Unironically, yes. What’s your argument, that you are so against 1 genocide that you will enable a 2nd? I don’t like that our choice is enabling 1 slaughter or 2, but how in the deranged hell do you think choosing more slaughter gives you the moral high ground?

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                    “I don’t believe you have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, and I am a Zionist.” - Joe Biden

                    Christian Zionism, the Religious Right, and Donald Trump: History’s Role in Contemporary Politics https://ash.harvard.edu/christian-zionism-religious-right-and-donald-trump-history’s-role-contemporary-politics

                    These are both deranged genocide supporting people. I won’t cast a vote for either of them. I am hoping to vote for the PSL if they can get on the ballot. I live in a state that has consistently supported Trump by large margins due to our terrible electoral system.

                    Organizing in your local community for the capabilities of mutual aid and mutual defense are more valuable than a vote for Joe Biden in fighting the creeping fascism of the USA.

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          Which race is Biden trying to eradicate again? Which one is he propping up as superior?

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            Jews and Palestinians. Don’t play dumb, it’s fuckin embarrassing. Almost as sad as when everyone quit pretending to care about kids in cages, which is still going on btw.

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              That’s right. I forgot about the Palestinian concentration camps in DC.

              My bad.

              Kids in cages is still deplorable. Funding Israeli genocide is deplorable.

              But when Biden loses the election he won’t send a violent mod to attempt a lynching of the Congress.

              Trump has definitively stated he intends to jail and execute anyone who stands in his way.

              They’re not even remotely the same.

              The only reason that Democrats are sucking Israel’s dick right now is terror that they’ll lose the Jewish vote this November.

              Like it or not this is democracy in action.

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          This guy is so notorious already. Small community, but linkerbaan is an ml account I think.

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        The exact wording of the most recent meme was “Trump would commit genocide”, and they still implied it was better

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          what did the other part of the meme say?

          Better than what?

          Hell, at this point some right wingers are for stopping the genocide while the left sits on their thumbs too afraid to do anything that might cross the party line.

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                  The bipartisan system has never protected trans people to begin with. Trans people have been continually under attack regardless of which party holds office. Biden has made very little attempt to protect trans people as they’ve lost more and more rights and protections on the state level.

                  The white collar genocide of trans people will continue as it always has because the democrats have no teeth; threatening our lives with a trump presidency hardly means anything to help the US left.

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        No, Trump has indicated his full support for all out genocide. Biden wants it to stop but won’t do much about it. Those are very different things. Please stop the bullshit.

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      Hexbear users hate Biden with a passion and push the “both sides” envelope with fervor, so their message aligns with that of MAGA voters who want to dismantle the government. I don’t think Hexbear are really GOP advocates, I personally think they’re a small community that has been prodded along and mentored by Pro-CCP foreign agents, bots, and bad faith actors to create political divide and discord while also increasing support of the CCP and their immediate allies, but that’s all just armchair theorizing at this point.

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          A lot of them unironically use a laughing Xi Jinping emoji, cheer for Chinese attacks on neighboring nations, and talk fondly about toppling the US Government.

          Maybe China doesn’t have to fund the operation for that to happen naturally, but I guarantee you China is funding similar operations all over social media.

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          Check out their community man. They are pro-china and pro-russia before they are leftist. I’ve browsed a lot of that community, and you’re absolutely wrong that they’re “just communists”. There’s a lot more to it than that.

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            Well as someone who quite likes them and am also a card-carrying party member I dunno what to tell you. I think you might have odd views on what Communists, or at least Marxist-Leninists believe.