I might be optimistic, but I think it’s partly a generational issue and understanding of geopolitics. We need young new people to run for office now more than ever. I’ve been around forever (I’m 38) and I can see the old guard readying to step down. Kamala could be that bridge.

Are any Republicans calling for a ceasefire? You can’t in one breath admonish them for misleading you then in the other call for them to set policy.

I understand the frustration. I really do.

Whether justly or not, Israel is a long time ally in a region that is very unstable (I’m talking beyond Palestine/Israel).

I don’t know what the right answer is. But between one side that wants to turn Palestine to glass and the other that wants to work towards a ceasefire, I’ll go with the latter. I’d love it if the US froze all weapons sales too.

politicians say stuff and lie

That’s not an argument. There is nothing for me to engage with.

I think you’re right and you shouldn’t bother to vote. What’s the point?

You’re not wrong but you’re also painting with a broad brush, which I understand-- a lot is happening here and very quickly. I always debate if it’s worth getting in the weeds in these types of discussions. For instance: Not Israel, but Netanyahu was responsible for the scheming and funding operations. It gets messy fast.

Edit: I love that I’m getting down voted not only for agreeing, but providing nuance and additional detail. As if my comments are exonorating the actions of IDF. Stay classy I guess.

• So we don’t want a ceasefire? WHAT?

• And you think Israel is only buying weapons from the US…?

Why are you leaving out the rest of the paragraph from that speech? She spent more time talking about the needs of Palestinians and working on an immediate ceasefire.

Pug,

I respect you and I agree with your take.

I just wanted to add some context though. Hamas enjoys wide support among Palestinians and Hamas’s explicit objective, as outlined in its charter, is the eradication of the state of Israel. If the Palestinian people won’t accept that the Israeli state is here to stay then the differences are to remain irreconcilable. 10 million jews aren’t going to pack up and leave. The 68 borders aren’t happening either, no matter what kind of wishful thinking we employ. This is unfortunate, but it’s the reality we have to contend with sadly.

Don’t get me wrong though: this is no justification to use the security threat as casus belli in the way IDF is conducting this war. Plenty of reprehensible actions coming from the Israeli military. There is absolutely no way forward until the current political regime in Israel is replaced with better leadership.

It’s not the shrinkage that’s bad per se. It’s the rate it’s happening at. Any drastic change in either direction will lead to unpleasant consequences- economic or other.

The person you are responding seems uninformed on the topic of Imane and in spreading misinform.

However, Russia does have a sordid history messing with international sports. Look up all the scandals in figure skating and also last year Olympics. I’m not sure why they do it. I think it has to do with projecting power on the world stage.

I just want to understand where all this vitriol is coming from. I don’t see it on other platforms but here it’s very prevalent. Like, why?

Every comment of yours… Is loaded with so much anger. Why?

Weak sauce. I’ve denounced Israel multiple times. I’m dissapointed.

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Noooo please. Not that imbecile grifter…

it almost seems you are missing the point on purpose

Welcome to every conversation w @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world

Zerg swarm VS marines

You’re clearly out of your depth. Stop now before you say anything dumber

Both are to blame as neither Hamas nor Israel benefits from peace. Before you start shouting “bothsidesing!!!” understand that I am not endorsing Israel. And don’t say “Hamas had no choice! They are oppressed and have to fight back”. That argument doesn’t hold water either as Hamas’s express objective is the elimination of the state of Israel. And before you say “Where does it say that???” I’ll ask that you familiarize yourself with the charter. And before you say “Well they don’t mean elimination of all Jews, just the state” I’ll point you to any Arab nation where Jews live freely and comfortably. And on and on we go.