Good. Fuck that guy.
As a Romanian I want to tell everyone “you’re welcome, world”.
I’ll celebrate at conviction.
Lollll I absolutely love that it was because of Greta Thunberg that he got caught.
Here’s a quote from an article:
On Tuesday, Mr Tate, a former kickboxer and influencer who has been banned from numerous social media services for violent and misogynistic rhetoric, tagged Ms Thunberg in a Twitter post, asking for her email address so he could “send a complete list of my car collection and their respective enormous emissions”.
The tweet also featured Mr Tate filling up a gas-guzzling Bugatti supercar at the pump.
The following day, the climate activist responded with a tweet of her own, replying, “Yes, please do enlighten me. email me at smalldickenergy@getalife.com.”
He then took a picture of himself with a pizza box, which then led the Romanian authorities to where he was hiding, and was arrested.
Fuck yeah.
Is there a /r/upliftingnews equivalent here yet?
As much as I’m glad that Andrew Tate is facing criminal charges, I think we need to address the root cause of our societal ills. Tate isn’t the cause but rather a symtpom.
We really need to step back and ask ourselves why somebody so brazenly misogynistic has attracted a following of millions and has become a role model to teenage boys especially.
I can explain exactly why, because we’ve created a growing social underclass of men who cannot earn a living, cannot find a romantic partner, cannot live fulfilling lives, and anybody who they turn to either mocks them, fobs them off, or give them false platitudes, which is why they turn to toxic masculinity and the Manosphere for guidance.
The reality is that inceldom is largely an economic issue that has resulted from decades of stagnated wages which have disproportionately affected men, because despite our best efforts to create an egalitarian society, we still overwhelmingly find men unattractive if they are not the strong hunter-gatherers and providers that our biology has been conditioned over millions of years to find physically attractive. Our biology has not caught up to the millennia of societal progress we’ve made because evolution is a much slower process.
Hmm, I don’t think I’m with you. You say men are incels because they’re poor and can’t find a girl. From what I’ve seen, they can’t find a girl because of deeply rooted, misogynistic beliefs that turn people off. If also like to see your citation for wage stagnation affecting men more than women, because every study I’ve seen says the wage gap has stayed the same or widened in the last few years. I know many, many men who aren’t the strong hunter gatherer type and have loving wives or girlfriends. The difference is those guys aren’t assholes.
they can’t find a girl because of deeply rooted, misogynistic beliefs that turn people off
People aren’t born with misogynistic beliefs. They also aren’t taught them in school.
also like to see your citation for wage stagnation affecting men more than women
I’m not going to google search for you, but it’s pretty easy to see that wage stagnation affects men more because traditionally, men are expected to be the provider for the household and women have traditionally had the option of not starting a career and just finding a man instead. I’m not saying that women are not affected, but they have an economic “out” that men generally don’t have.
I know many, many men who aren’t the strong hunter gatherer type and have loving wives or girlfriends. The difference is those guys aren’t assholes.
I’m willing to bet that they also have stable jobs. Also, if you’re one of them of course you’d know a bunch of other men who are similar; this says nothing about a large swath of men that the grandparent comment is referring to.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
I am not defending the manosphere, and I think that the rampant misogyny you see in these online subcultures is downright alarming.
People aren’t born with misogynistic beliefs. They also aren’t taught them in school.
I’d say it gets passed around by word-of-mouth. A lot of the problematic stuff I was exposed to earlier in life definitely came from fellow pupils at school, who likely picked it up from their families. The rise of social media only makes it easier to find problematic stuff, especially since it’s proliferated so much on TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, etc.
Social media companies are to blame for getting people hooked on this crap, and we are to blame for happily lapping it up and preaching the words of people like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Sneako, etc like they’re gospel.
Tate is meant to be banned from mainstream social media, yet I see his videos all the freaking time on YouTube, Instagram, etc. And that’s because these media giants cannot be bothered to purge the thousands of affiliate accounts (linked to his MLM) that are regurgitating his content.
I’m not going to google search for you, but it’s pretty easy to see that wage stagnation affects men more because traditionally, men are expected to be the provider for the household and women have traditionally had the option of not starting a career and just finding a man instead. I’m not saying that women are not affected, but they have an economic “out” that men generally don’t have.
That, and women are generally treated more favourably in cases of family/divorce law, are able to far more easily go into modelling/adult entertainment, get far greater maternity leave rights (at least in the UK), etc.
Online dating (I am referring exclusively to the heterosexual experience and cannot speak for other experiences) is also a very good example of this. Men struggle to even get any matches or replies that aren’t from scammers, spam bots or people on the other side of the world unless they look like Ryan Gosling or Josh Hartnett, while women are inundated with matches and have to be far more selective.
Okcupid did a trend analysis of their user data and found that women rated 80% of men below-average in terms of attractiveness. This link is obviously archived, because after Okcupid got acquired by Match Group (same people who own Tinder, Match.com, Hinge, POF and a lot of other dating apps), they deleted the blog post because these kinds of statistics hurt their bottom-line.
Then again, I also subscribe to the theory that online dating is designed to be such a soul-crushing experience because how else are Match Group going to lull you into spending over triple the price of a WoW subscription on a premium account?
It goes far beyond just being poor. Wealth inequality is just one piece of the puzzle, albeit a massive one.
There are also a lot of other factors like how social media is poisoning mental health, physical and mental healthcare being expensive enough to outright bankrupt many families, the fact that rather than address these issues or limit gun ownership, American lawmakers instead think putting children through active shooter drills and locking down schools with more security than an international airport is the solution to deal with an epidemic of school shootings.
Even among nations with relatively lax gun laws, you almost never see public shootings, let alone ones on similar levels to Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, etc
These are all legitimate complaints.
Sorry, I’m currently one of those dudes who doesn’t have a romantic partner and doesn’t live what others would call a “fulfilling life”. I haven’t fucking decided that Andrew Tate or any of a thousand others are the guiding star of my life, nor do I feel I ever will. This idea of “society’s to blame for incels” is pretty bad even on its face - most of these guys are told by these influencers (or their cultists) that they deserve not only a happy, prosperous life, but they shouldn’t even have to actively work for it. According to this philosophy, they shouldn’t have to go out and actively seek romance, women should be flocking to them in droves. As this does not happen, something must be fundamentally wrong with society - which is why a lot of these types also wind up spouting fascist rhetoric, and eventually fall into white supremacist pablum.
Nah man incels are just losers and Tate is just the same. I talk to my male friends all the time about difficulties I’m having I don’t need to blame women for them. We haven’t created s growing social underclass of men, some men are just bitching and thinking this is targetted when everyone is struggling.
This reaks of manosphere bullshit.
Oh yeah, they absolutely are losers and the manosphere is not to be trusted. Incel, red pill, MGTOW, etc rhetoric is dangerous.
I talk to my male friends all the time about difficulties I’m having I don’t need to blame women for them.
Some don’t even have that support group.
It’s an economic issue in as much as this is what capitalism promotes and exemplifies. Psychopaths and sociopaths rise to the top. And all the other haters fangirl over them for doing it.
Some of the happiest most satisfied people I know are poor. They just don’t have the massive entitlement to other people’s things.
I can’t agree with that. Being poor is not an excuse to be a shitbag. A lot of those guys aren’t even trying to change anything, they put all the blame on corporations as if it somehow makes their behavior justified, and then spend their days on incel forums.
They didn’t say it was an excuse. They didn’t defend being a shitbag. They offered an explanation. You may disagree with it, but you’re not talking about the same thing here.
inceldom is largely an economic issue
that’s such a reach. women are lagrely more economically disadvantaged, specially when you consider that men are paid more, are not straved off of promotions due to their gender, are not discriminated because they are women. rich/well-off incels exist, they are and will remain incels despite their financial status or attractiveness. they are incels because of their misogynistic beliefs (among other horrible traits).
the internet and tate has amplified the voices of this community since they are able to congregate anonymously and with no repercussions.
Finally. Wish his influence would crumble to dust too.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer piece of trash.
They say that if you can’t say something good, you shouldn’t say anything at all.
Andrew Tate has been indicted and will face trial on rape and human trafficking charges in Romania. Good.
And to think, all of this happened because he got owned by Greta Thunberg.
Couldn’t happen to a more deserving attempt at a human… Hope Romanian prisons are appropriately hellish.
Well, another reason to leave Reddit
Andrew Tate? Let me tell you, he hasn’t hurt a fly, not one bit. Why on earth would they be charging him with crimes? It’s clear as day, folks, this is just another attempt by those liberals to punish people for being good in society. They can’t stand it when someone stands up for what’s right. Sad! We need to fight against this injustice, folks, and support those who are making a positive impact. Together, we will triumph over these baseless accusations. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain #Trump2024 #TateIsInnocent
Take your corny garbage back to reddit with the rest of the bots.
I thought it was a nice imitation and took it to mean the opposite of what the commenter wrote.
To people downvoting: IT’S SATIRE, COME ON, USE YOUR NOGGIN’
This is a news community, not a lousy impersonationators community. It’s the wrong audience for this joke. I don’t want news posts filled with bad comedians, so of course I’m going to vote against this. Trump gets too much attention as is, why would I want him to get even more attention on articles that don’t even have anything to do with him?
Yeah so that‘s how the donald started out. Trump satire isn‘t funny to me and irrelevant, so I‘ll vote how I want.
We know it’s satire. We just find Trump so unfunny and so problematic that even satire of him is annoying.
