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    He probably forgot to funnel millions of dollars to non-profits and businesses adjacent to PEGI decisionmakers and their family members. Rookie mistake.

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    Fuck PEGI, their ratings always sucked and weren’t useful at all. Full blown swearing? 13+. One cigar through 500 hours of gameplay? Adults only. Never cared, never will.

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      I think the current microsoft version of solitaire has microtransactions and ads so is actually significantly worse

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        They added micro transactions and ads to fucking solitaire? How have I not heard about this till now…

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          This isn’t really new. Solitaire has had ads for over a decade now since Windows 8, and there is a monthly premium subscription to remove them. As I understand it they also don’t show during offline play, but might be wrong about that.

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            Offline play? It’s SOLITAIRE. Offline play should be the ONLY play, by default.

            Feeling like I took crazy pills this morning…

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              If it makes you feel better/worse, the subscription is shared across multiple games. I was playing a bunch of Microsoft Jigsaw at one point (don’t ask), and while you could play as much as you’d like for free, the fact that they squeezed ads into it to extort you (or more likely, clueless older people) really cheapened the whole thing.

              They had a lot of pretty photos which were probably not free, but come on, this is Microsoft, they have the money. I think this should’ve been bundled with Windows for free. I truly think a lot of people might even look back on it fondly the way they do with a lot of the older bundled-in games. We will take for granted how much the default option with any sort of technology around us has an impact on us as kids. Maybe not everyone, but not everyone loved pinball or inkball.

              Actual textbook enshittification: what was once a space for a nice default thing to fall back on if you were bored and had their operating system has now become an “opportunity” to “generate more business.” Very sad. Computers are impossibly wonderful machines, everyone who has access to one should be able to enjoy a few basic things, packed in, for free - with no strings attached (looking at you candy crush).

              I’m sure there’s a nice free or paid jigsaw game made with love out there that could satisfy that itch I felt that one week in 2020. Hm.

              Edit: I have now redownloaded Microsoft Jigsaw and might just expand this comment into a full post/rant about the state of modern consumer software through the lens of Microsoft’s current casual games suite

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              Damn I have fond memories of those games back in xp and 7 era but ig enshitification is evitable when it comes to Microsoft

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              There are daily challenges and things like that which is what I would refer to as online play. Not that crazy imho of you’ve put thousands of hours into vanilla solitaire that you may welcome something to spice it up.

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                Real question, why wouldn’t the win95/xp version satisfy someone? Isn’t it the same thing with simpler graphics?

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                  I can’t speak for other people, I don’t even play solitaire. Realistically, I imagine most people get new PCs with newer Windows versions and play whatever solitaire is on there.

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          Step 1: Add ads into [insert app of choice here] that are really annoying

          Step 2: Make people pay to get rid of them. Bonus points if it’s a subscription

          Step 3: People hate your app but it’s the one that’s installed by default so they use it anyway

          Step 4: Profit

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        I also don’t think it comes pre-installed anymore, you have to get it through Microsoft’s meme store that no one uses.

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        Supertux depicts imagery of speeding, misdemeanor and felony. +18 Age rating for Torvalds and all of his derivatives.

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        Maybe look into the game being discussed even a little before commenting on it.

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          I did. I’m not going to go buy it for this though. They literally use poker terms, poker imagery, and real poker hands. Saying it’s just because there’s cards involved is disingenuous.

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            And yet you say it’s cause of “gambling”. So you’re either lying about looking into it or lying about what you saw.

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            You could use the same for majong or pachinko like games like Peggle. The issue is the actual gambling, not just the game elements or risk, reward, and points going up. Loot boxes are 10× worse.

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              No, we know that stuff that glorifies addictive activities can recruit or cause relapse as well.

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    Might as well go all in on that new rating.

    Balatro 1.5 Patch Notes.

    • All the Jokers now hang dong.

    • Big naturals Queens are worth double.

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        If you’ve ever spent money on a movie theatre ticket, you value your time at $7-$20 dollars an hour. This… is thousands of hours of entertainment.

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          So, you’re suggesting we make games per hour subscription? A good idea /s

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          I’m not saying it’s not worth ten dollars.

          I just don’t feel like spending ten dollars.

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    I wish lawmakers had some balls on this subject. If there’s gambling, they should have to register as a gambling company and comply with all the other restrictions on gambling advertisements in each jurisdiction.

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          There used to be ante in MTG. You’d play for cards in each other’s decks and were to keep them if you won the game. Plus, there were a number of cards actively interacted with the ante’d cards and added or changed what’s in the ante

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        Using chips is even a stretch honestly. There are some chip imagery here and there but otherwise ‘chips’ are just how points are called.

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          Exactly you never actually commit to any sort of wager or even an imitation of financial risk.

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        They also base it on poker, yeah cards can transform each other but it’s still quite literally a poker game. This isn’t MTG. (Which is just real life loot boxes)

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          But poker is only a gambling game because when you play it you “give up” something of value in the hope of winning more through playing and randomness. What makes it gambling is not the cards or the chips it’s the gambling aspect. Balatro uses card and poker hands, and so does “yatzhee”, but it does not use any gambling mechanic. Lootboxes on the other hand use gambling mechanic.

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            Which is why PEGI didn’t say it was literally gambling, they said it was imagery of gambling.

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              Although you may be right about why they did it, I feel like imagery of gambling is not meant to be ‘something that is in any way related to something that happens to be gambling’, it’s when gambling is shown but you’re not the one gambling. If someone in game is gambling that’s imagery, if a game uses cards for something that is not gambling it’s not imagery.

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    NBA 2K literally had slot machine in it. System is corrupt.

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    let’s just do like all parents buying the last Call of Duty to their 10-year-old and just don’t give a fuck about PEGI.

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      The thing is, this is likely going to affect their sales to some degree.
      As a parent, you may have age lock on your child’s account, or search games by rating, or just not know what this game is when asked to buy it but judging by rating.

      I don’t know how significant of an impact that is, but it’s unfair.

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        I think they’ve done them a favour in a way. If this was day one then it might hurt them but they’re past the point of like 90% of their sales I bet, and now pegi looking like incompetent dinosaurs is just a free second wave of social media exposure

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          One of the big advantages of steam and online storefronts in general is that it bypasses PEGI / ESRB and their unnecessary Draconian nonsense.

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      The ESRB isn’t awful, it’s not perfect of course, but I think it’s pretty dang good for what it is.

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        I mean the point of all rating systems in the US was fear of government regulation of content and having to fight that particular legal battle. It basically exists because moral busybodies were upset about Night Trap, Mortal Kombat and Doom.

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          Yes, this is true. And I think the industry managed to pull together a pretty decent one.

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      Because, unfortunately, millions of people still use it. If you’re selling a product, it’s in your best interest to have as much social media presence as possible.

      Also, it’s better to have an official presence on those platforms so others can’t impersonate you as easily.

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          If you’ve ever made a thing that took so much time that it has to be your job, and earn you money, you’d likely have a different view. If you’re ignoring a percentage of your target market because they’re on a platform you don’t like, then your project might fail, and you don’t get to keep your house.

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              If your stated downside to still using Twitter is that it’s a waste of time, is that invalidated if your posting tool posts to all of your socials with one click? Like most professional social media users that have to maintain a bunch of channels with the same content?

              Also, who is being dramatic about how important it is to be on or off twitter?

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                  Ok… but his thing can actually happen… your version of the bad things that can happen for still also posting news to twitter is all imaginary stuff that doesn’t happen in real life. Being upset about the direction Twitter and Reddit took and are taking is a totally valid, and honestly the objectively correct position to have about it. But adding in imaginary penalties for using it is not.

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        Then there should also be a version of the post on Mastodon, and this post should be a screenshot of that one.

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      Twitter is by far the larger platform, and small independent creators have to work to promote their game on every platform they can, if they want to succeed. The moral high ground of not using undesirable social media sites is nice, but isn’t fair to people who are partially dependent on those platforms to make a living.

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        I’ve seen several small creators say they get 10 times the engagement on Bluesky. That includes sales through promo links, which can’t be faked. It’s becoming clear that X’s numbers are mostly illusory at this point.

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        Also, the simple fact is that there is no reason that any entity promoting their product has to choose any of these platforms over the other–you can just post to all of them, every single one that has enough users to be worth posting to.

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      Twitter can reach various community from variety of region, like English Asia Twitter.

      Entire fediverse is still mostly Western community.

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    I still wonder why the hell is this game classified as a roguelike? It’s poker mixed with MTG. Also, why are you crying dude? You made a literal slot machine.

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        Semi-permanency is not a defining feature of roguelikes, in most of them every run starts from scratch.

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          That’s why he said roguelite. Semipermanency (being able to unlock upgrades for future runs) is what separates the roguelite from a roguelike. In a roguelike, every run you start from 0, in a roguelite you unlock things that make differences in future runs (in the case of balatro: different decks, new jokers, …)

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        No, rouge is the stuff that ladies put on their cheeks. You mean rogue, as in wildcard, untameable, privateer.

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    Why should we care what a talking horse pseudo-plinco game thinks should be the age rating of their competitors?