Self-checkout lanes are anti-union machines. Theft was the only way we are getting rid of them
Upvoating because it’s funny. Not because I agree with Walmart.
Malwart
Please consider that saving someone’s job is worth the 2 minutes more that you spend waiting in line at the cashier.
Almost every time I’ve been given the choice, the cashiers were faster. People using the self-checkouts are slow as fuck.
The cashier job is obsolete. By using self checkout I give them the opportunity to work somewhere fulfilling
Just a pick a new job from the magical job tree, where jobs are free and plentiful and ripe for the taking
I have never saved time at a self checkout unless I had 1 item. I am absolutely not interested in looking up the code for a poblano fucking pepper using their shitty menu.
Same, I’ve never even thought to try it at the grocery store. I always have produce and alcohol and I’m not about to try to fuck with all that on self-service. Cashiers can do it faster. I sometimes use it at big box stores if I only have a couple things but for the most part I wait until I’m in dire need before I go out to the store so I usually end up getting a bunch of stuff at once.
Please consider that people suck.
I actually like the Self-Checkout, it’s faster for me. The people who have difficulty with them just don’t want to put a single thought into things.
I can also self-check faster than waiting for a cashier but I do put thought into it; the thought is “these things cost jobs”.
I think it depends on the implementation. The grocery store by me replaced 2 express lanes, of which only one was ever open with 8 self checkouts staffed will 1 person to babysit the machines and direct traffic. A wash for the employee and the owners, and a net positive for the customer.
While a noble goal I’m sure, same as that not allowing pumping gas yourself thing, I expect the companies behind the actual decision to give exactly no shits about your preference. Theoretically they should, realistically they don’t need to.
I don’t know if the letter is real, but this was my parents. They refused to use the self-checkout because they didn’t work there and it might take away jobs. Meanwhile, they’re the same people who complained that pretty much any basic customer facing job shouldn’t pay a living wage.
They exist.
The letter isn’t real in the sense that it says Malwart at the top. Otherwise it does exist.
I can’t believe my brain didn’t catch that. I instantly saw the walmart brand symbol and looked no further.
I wonder what their reasoning for “customer facing job does not deserve living wage” is.
I bet it includes the phrase unskilled labour.
You know you can take the good part and discard the second one?
The fear of employment replacement through automation hinders creativity which would actually provide safer, better and more meaningful employment.
If people (workers, consumers, neighbours) would own or have a foot in their workplaces (i.e. cooperatives), they would care more about that.
Because in reality these businesses don’t offer better, more meaningful employment for the people they replace by making the customers work.
It’s just more people in the unemployment fodder.
My local coop refuses to add self-checkout lanes and this is why I shop there even though it’s more expensive than the alternatives.
Fuck corporate greed.
It’s not really automation though. The store is outsourcing labor to the consumer.
The automation are the API and the security cameras.
Which, as a customer, provide absolutely no value to me.
Yeah, surveillance steals value from consumers.
Self-checkout seems better to me, because it decreases monotonous and forced public interaction (thus somewhat automated anyway): Beep. Beep. Beep. Do you want loyalty points? That’s 21.46€. Do you want the receipt? Goodbye! Beep. Beep. Beep…
It uses less space.
It is parallel instead of serial.
The work is not much more than putting groceries on a checkout lane anyway, except for unlabelled fruits and vegetables.
Self-checkout allows for smaller stores and coops, for example in villages or as kiosk.
Oh no, you had to answer two yes/no questions
The worst inconvenience in the world.
Parallel vs serial: there’s usually more than one check out lane open so idk what you waffling about.
Less space is not a convenience for me so idgaf
My local coop has regular check out lanes and it’s in a small town so idk what you waffling about.
Remember that multibillion dollar corporations are pushing you to self checkout because they are too cheap to pay someone minimum wage to work a register. The boomers are right.
And that is why I stopped using them. Actually, I just order online for most things and curbside pickup.
Just wait until bots or drones just deliver it to our doorstep. I will never need to see another human again!
People can deliver to our door without us having to interact.
Alternatively, self-checkout is a great way to shoplift from big corporations destroying civilization and the habitability of the planet.
Doo Doo Doo… Doo! 🌠
I refuse to voluntarily pay for bags. How many bags did I use? Zero, motherfucker!
You wear shoes to go grocery shopping, right? Do this once, then keep the bags next to your shoes so you remember to reuse them maybe a half dozen times.
Boom now you’re saving the environment and money.
Saving the fucking environment. LMFAO
ur no fun take a joke
That’s one of The reasons I don’t use the self checkout. Also since I want to pay with cash and can’t do that at the self checkout.
We should strive to automate as many jobs as possible. Not try to keep tedious jobs from disappearing.
Those multibillion dollar corporations will have to keep adapting to the world, one way or another. They should be able to handle an automated world, Or we might need to bring out the torches and pitchforks.
some people don’t want it wait for a million years for the person in front of them with 600 items to get through.
Some solutions are not just about solving one thing or a personal attack.
Tell that to people that could have had jobs as a cashier that those machines have taken away.
May the hammer of Enoch do it’s work.
Doing less work has been the primary motivating factor behind basically all of human progress. The problem is that the savings is lining shareholder pockets instead of reducing employee workload.
Yep, hence the Luddite reference.
I will, no problem. Luddites have no place today, thank you.
Heck, cashiers are still wprking where I live. One of them just gets assigned to 6 or 8 self checkouts instead of normal register.
Oh no, automation getting rid of shit jobs people didn’t like already, the horror
Just learn to code right bro. You dumb ass libs always assume everyone is as skilled as you and every job you don’t want to do is lesser. Some people like being cashiers.
Get back at me when you learn some labor theory and intersectionalize more.
Just learn to code right bro
Lol, no, don’t put words in my mouth, dickhead
You dumb ass libs
Swing and a miss
assume everyone is as skilled as you
Even BIGGER miss. I’m an asshole and assume most people are far less skilled than me, and am regularly proven right
and every job you don’t want to do is lesser
Your words, not mine, I don’t consider cashier’s to be lesser to me in any way unless they, as an individual, give me reason to
Some people like being cashiers
Yeah, you’ll notice you said “some” and not “most”, so what’s your point, exactly?
Get back at me when you learn some labor theory and intersectionalize more.
Get back at me when you learn how to discuss what was said and not prop up a shitty strawman
There is no automation getting rid of a shit job. The customers now have the privilege to do that job for themselves.
Pick one: it’s losing people their jobs, or it’s not
Quite prefer doing it myself, none of my local stores have any of the issues listed elsewhere on the thread. Must suck for them but that’s not a reason to not progress
Like you’re not waiting for the person in front of you in self-checkout to fumble their way through scanning those items? Who do you think is faster at it, the boomer in front of you in line or someone who does it all day? You’re just buying into the bullshit narrative you’re being fed.
Self-checkout has almost always been faster for me. No bullshit narrative, just actual experience.
When’s the last time someone checked you out?
Don’t remember. All I know is that the average time I’ve spent waiting for when doing self-check is shorter than the average time waiting when not.
Next time your feeling social or not it a rush have someone check you out. Hell you can even do it if there’s a cute bean working.
never 🥲
I hate the self checkout at my local Kroger because it works like fucking dog shit. Always playing a patronizing voice telling me to put the item in the bagging area even though it already is. Always has an inadequate amount of space in the bagging area.
If the purge happens everyone is going to be looting and murdering. I’ll be the person burning down Kroger.
I went to self checkout at Costco cause I was borrowing my sister’s card and didn’t want the cashier to check it, unrelated but self checkout does gave uses
My experience with self checkout at Costco is very much that they still do 80% of the work if you have more than 2 things. Like they’re flipping things and scanning them in my cart and I’m just handling pushing buttons and paying on the touch screen. It’s kinda bizarre but not bad imo.
The real trick is they don’t have the weight sensor and cameras that flip out over every move. Like damn I told you I was putting 3 bags in the bagging area; they are not unexpected items.
Never understood why people struggle with the bagging area thing. You’re doing something wrong. Here’s a hint: Every item in the store is weighed, and the bagging area has a scale on it that measures that weight. If you accidentally put more or less weight into the bagging area, it’ll complain.
Scan, immediately bag within 3 seconds, and don’t let anything touch the bagging area, not even your hands. Utilize the “skip bagging” button for items that take more than 3 seconds to bag (but don’t hit "skip bagging more than 3/4 times or it’ll complain). Immediately remove any excess weight (such as your arm or a bag) after bagging. I promise you’ll almost never have another an issue again.
I know how to bag groceries, you fucking condescending asshole. The Walmart and Home Depot self check work every time for me. Kroger has defective ones. Maybe their scales suck. Maybe they need different values for their timers. I am not going to debug it for them unless they pay my software consulting fees which seems highly unlikely because they’ve broken for more than five years.
Sometimes they are just broken. Bad scales, sensors, etc. Kroger’s converyor style checkouts are especially bad.
Dude sometimes those scales are stupid sensitive and even straight up busted.
My grocery store keeps empty paper bags in a pile on the scale so they are part of the tare weight. Doesn’t matter. I’ve taken a bag off the pile, opened it, and placed it back on the scale…and needed to get an employee to re-tare it so I could start scanning. This was before even scanning.
My grocery store also has cameras on top, too, watching you from above. At each register. And if they think that you put something in the bag without scanning it, it’ll call over an attendant. To review the tape with you, like getting the refs to review a play.
Plus having kids that can’t stand still. Bound to touch the scale at some point. And they love to do self checkout.
BJs has it right…they are a wholesale club like Costco. I think they are regional. They have scales but I don’t think they even use them. In fact, I don’t even have to unload my cart. I try to load my cart so barcodes are all facing up (as much as I can) so I just rapid fire zap-zap-zap. It’s very satisfying.
If you ever hear someone tell another customer “i don’t work here”, immediately call over to that person and tell them to restock isle 5.
Hey, I don’t work here, but if I did, I would not sell you shit 🎶
But maybe I should, so I could hide all the things you want from you! 🎶
[Darth] Maul Wart…
Everything’s half off at maul wart
Get out of the way, you old fuck, I’m in a hurry.
You should vocalize this next time so some old men can take turns beating your punk ass.
Burn all the self checkouts, what do I get out of this lazy " automation " I’m not touching one till I get a discount for don’t someone else’s job
PS let me smash those stupid one way gates at the entrance with a hammer
You transport yourself to the store, walk around the store, pick the items up off the shelf, take them around the store, take them with you to checkout, take them to your car, bring them into your house, and put them away. But moving the item 36 inches from your basket to your bag is something you’re too enfeebled or important to do yourself?
Sorry man but what do get out of that extra effort how ever small it is, “oh no I’m going to wait a bit longer while I’m on my phone”, maybe it’s because in from a small town and such things are pretty recent but they just feels like there’s dishonest about them
Ok, boomer.
Ok, bitch.
I don’t want to be a 30 year old boomer
You know these things are for Your convenience, right?
These things are so they don’t have to pay people to check out your groceries anymore. There’s not much convenience in them when you’re buying produce and have to go through multiple pages to find the item you’re scanning in or god forbid the barcode doesn’t read or put something in the bagging area too quickly and then you have to stand there looking stupid while an employee comes over to help you because the machine encountered an error and won’t let you continue scanning your stuff.
You know, You don’t have to go to a self checkout, right?
Sometimes that’s all they have open (Home Depot) so you do have to go to them. If these companies can save a buck by having you ring yourself up, they will.
I’d rather walk out with nothing
They’re way, way, way faster for me and funny enough at the same time I have peace of mind in that the person next in line isn’t breathing down my neck while I’m putting stuff in my backpack.
I heard they are trying to charge for self checkout now, it was already a no thanks, now it’s a fuck no.
If I hear that, I’m dropping my shit where I stand and going to the grocery store down the street.
Don’t do that, it’s not effective feedback. Ask for a manager, explain to them that you’re dropping your shit where you stand and going to the grocery store down the street, and why. Should be a brief conversation, and if multiple people do that then it’s more likely to trickle up to corporate.
What, charging for access to something that has minimized their front labor needs? Are they going to still stay with just one cashier open a time even during rush periods?
And for some reason they now restrict to only a few of the many self checkout registers at a time. Like they have ten counters, and I get sometimes one may be not working…but they only have three open at a time with a long line forming for self checkout. I’m not sure what the goal is there.
