• Iron Lynx@lemmy.world
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    “I did not expect the leopards to eat my face!” Said the woman who voted for The Leopards Eating Faces Party

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    You can mathematically group the people in your life in such a way so that half of the people you know are stupider than the other half.
    I swear to fuckin’ god, man, politics make it real easy to tell who goes in which half. It’s not a perfect method, but it works at least 85% of the goddamned time.

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    Cool meme, but surely you realize that using a system and being against the system are not in conflict.

    Then again if they like the system and think it shouldn’t be dismantled and still vote for someone who wants to dismantle, that’s dumb stupid.

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      Not sure how you can apply that principle here. If people don’t want insurance at all, we get it, but this is all about people who could not get insurance before and now are paying for this 100% optional thing.

      Of course they could be in favor of NHS or an equivalent. That’s certainly possible. But I think you were not going that direction with your logic.

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    In Kansas it’s a hot issue to expand ACA benefits and has widely popular support. Yet we for some reason keep on voting I’m Republicans whose major issues are just removing tax brackets.

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    Th ACA screwed me over pretty badly. Granted my situation wasn’t the target of the act (I had non-employer private insurance, and the price more than tripled due to ACA requirements).

    I don’t like trump at all, but I agree with scrapping this plan and creating something better.

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      Well I’m glad you’re able to make it about yourself and not consider the needs of others. You’d make a great republican.

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      Ah, something better that you … checks notes … didn’t bother to describe.

      I can think of an improvement: national health care. Is that what you mean? … Certainly Trump doesn’t want that, but what about you?

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    What they (Republicans, conservatives, libertarians, centrists) really want is emergency departments over run with patients who can’t get care for chronic conditions and then they have an excuse to repeal EMTALA. At that point they’ll be able to sink people deep into medical debt and when social security and Medicare/Medicaid fails to cover the costs then we can force medically disabled people into low wage jobs and take their assets to sell at pennies on the dollar to mega corps and further consolidate wealth in this country.

    We should instead create a pipeline for that wealth to flow through the lower and middle class on it’s way up to the top bringing the floor up and making sure basic infrastructure like medical care has the funding it needs.

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      If you make the wealthy ultra wealthy then their urine is full of healthy nutrients when they piss on you.

      That’s the basis to tinkle down economics.

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    You can dislike a policy and still be forced to live under it.

    I have no choice but to use the American health care system, and I know how shitty it is, especially given the fact that Obama had a supermajority for a time and could have implemented universal health care. Few things will anger me as quickly as someone saying we have ‘access’ to health care when that supposed access is largely contingent on whether or not you can afford to be price-gouged.

    Obama was not a good president.

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      You’re simply wrong here. Obama tried his damndest for universal health care. Supermajority or not, the republicans in congress used every trick in the book to stymie it until they gained the majority. The ACA was a lame compromise and the worst of both worlds, but it’s still benefitted millions including those who hate illogically.

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        Obama tried his damndest for universal health care.

        No he didn’t. The Dems were offered a large lobbyist check and took it.

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        What are not legitimate concerns are those being put forward claiming a public option is somehow a Trojan horse for a single-payer system. I’ll be honest. There are countries where a single-payer system may be working. But I believe – and I’ve even taken some flak from members of my own party for this belief – that it is important for us to build on our traditions here in the United States. So, when you hear the naysayers claim that I’m trying to bring about government-run health care, know this – they are not telling the truth.

        What I am trying to do – and what a public option will help do – is put affordable health care within reach for millions of Americans. And to help ensure that everyone can afford the cost of a health care option in our Exchange, we need to provide assistance to families who need it. That way, there will be no reason at all for anyone to remain uninsured.

        – obama 2009

        https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2009/06/obama-rejects-single-payer-019106

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          This was said after single-payer was blocked. This was his version of RomneyCare, in response to the original vision being defeated via filibuster.

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            The filibuster was the Democrats’ excuse. They used that excuse many times, and it was never legitimate.

            If minority Republicans can use it to block everything, then minority Democrats can too … except that’s not how it played out … and that’s how we know that the corporate Dems were just pandering to big pharma et al.

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        LOL

        That’s always the first argument. The poor, defenseless Dems are just powerless to make real, substantial change. Their hands are tied. Better things simply aren’t possible. It was all the fault of the rotating villain.

        And yet people still vote for these same Democrats who are bleeding them dry.

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        I’m glad it’s working out for you.

        I can’t imagine it’s that great for a country where tens of millions can’t absorb a sudden $400 expense without going further into debt, seeing as how it’s a capitalist system that price-gouges people for their care.

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          Uh, of course it’s not that great–but that doesn’t mean it isn’t better or we want to go backwards to when it was worse.

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      You’re technically correct but you’re ignoring the intention of the post. I agree Obamacare sucks. I want Medicare for All. But the people this post is obviously directed at want it to go away for reasons and just go back to how it was before.

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    Voting for a candidate with the expectation to stop needing a social benefit is definitely how someone with minimum political knowledge will vote.

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      Nah. Relying on the ACA, and voting for people who want to abolish it is a leopards eating faces situation.

      The guy in this meme is wrong because he’s not paying attention to the wider pressures of society, and the needs of the people he’s talking to, when those people just want a better system.

      He disagrees with the woman demanding better ethical practices from Apple because she uses an Apple product, but the reality is that it is difficult to navigate modern society without a smartphone, and there’s pretty much no brand that doesn’t have some ethical failings in their supply chain. It’s not hypocrisy to point out a systemic issue, and want to see it resolved, if your participation is unavoidable.

      He disagrees with the man wanting seatbelts for his car, because he bought a car without them. Wanting greater safety features for the machinery you regularly operate is pragmatic, not hypocritical. Seeing a problem and offering a solution is a productive thing to do.

      But relying on the ACA for access to healthcare, and then voting to have the ACA dismantled with absolutely no plan on how to replace it, essentially denying millions of Americans, including themselves, access to healthcare? That’s just fucking insane. There’s no call for a better system. There’s no suggestion for how to do things differently. Just a call to tear down a system that people rely on for their health.

      If you think that we ought to hear the Republicans out on their anti-Healthcare agenda, or that people who rely on the ACA aren’t voting against their own interests when they vote Republican, you’re not paying attention to what’s at stake.