I guess you have quite the imagination.
I really want a new movie with one of the moments being a the general lee with proper stars and bars being paint job used to destroy a confederate statue, maybe have the new duke brothers inherit the car and use it do some good knowing how angry them having the car makes confederate sympathisers
Honestly, just making them good people and having them help and hang out with minorities would be more than enough. So they should definitely add that shit in destroy a statue with it while a minority is in the car with them.
Edit: and you dont even really have to change Boss Hog he pretty much fits.
I watched this as a kid (it aired in Germany).
It was funny, the stunts were cool and the chick was kinda hot.Catherine Bach was a robo-babe.
If she was a president, she would have been babe-reham lincoln.
She may or may not be the reason I find southern American girls hot
The actress was born in Cleveland, Ohio. So there’s that.
And Bo Duke was from upstate New York.
Smart man, because they are, although I’m biased because I’m from Alabama
SHES A ROBOT?!
A robo babe is someone who is babaliscious. if they were a president they’d be baberaham lincoln
Schwing
Shaaaaa-wing.
We were jazzed about the local-boy-made-good story, since Tom Wopat was born in the little town of Lodi, Wisconsin (“Home of Susie the Duck”), and went to school at UW-Madison. The car could’ve been named anything, as long as it did those awesome jumps.
Kinda?!
To this day many refer to cut denim jean booty shorts as Daisy Dukes.
Not many soon once all the boomers die off
Nobody knows what that means except boomer you can say it all you want
Lol okay boomers from the 90s, got it
Dukes of Hazzard first aired in 1979, but okay buddy
Ummm thighs
Just imagining it with your miserable world view. There’s zero incest in the show, and zero hate crimes. Other than the flag and name of the car, there’s nothing racist about it at all, and that flag wasn’t perceived as a racist symbol back then, as illogical as that may seem. When black people do appear in the show, which admittedly is rare, they’re always equals to the Duke boys. The show is just good fun. If there’s any theme to it at all, it’s that it’s cool to make money with moonshine, and flaunt the law, while making fools of law enforcement.
To add, the bad guy is a rich guy trying to exploit people for profit or to get revenge for those that have wronged him.
Bro you cant just tell OP hes a retard with a hive mentality.
With Uncle Smurf, Boss Dimmadome, Sheriff Gomer, Vagina the Mechanic, and Random Black State Trooper…what’s not to love? 😂
Boss Dimmadome
Owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome?
Not right!
That’s right, Doug Dimmadome!
European checking in: whats the name of the series?
Dukes of Hazzard.
“Inspired” by / re-done from the B-movie film “Moonrunners”
Starring the legendary James Mitchum! Probably because Mitchum also starred in Thunder Road, which is the grandaddy of all “bootleggers in a fast car” movies, and which was originally written with Elvis Presley in mind for the lead role.
The Dukes of Hazard
In addition, those shorts are still called daisy dukes (at least by my generation) in honor of Daisy there, laying on the flag.
I didn’t realize until my late teens (mid-00s) where the term came from. Still call them that to this day. Never cared to find out if they have a proper term.
Blue jean panties is the proper term.
I still call em Daisy Dukes, though I had no clue where that term came from so thank you
Man… gotta say, I’m really glad I got to enjoy these old skool shows.
Pssst… I’m Latino, this show didn’t offend me then and it doesn’t offend me now.
Well to be fair I was a kid and didn’t watch it - didn’t care.
I wish I was born in a time when people could just enjoy shit.
It seems like mindless TV with action, some good old boys and some eye candy, set in the south.
People make out it is some sort of factually wrong documentary.
As I’ve seen it said many times on Lemmy for many nostalgia moments and am also quite surprised no one said to to you yet (they probably got tired of repeating it…), people yearning for the good old times are the privileged white patriarchy class.
Be ashamed, be very ashamed. Tsk. Tsk.
People are nostalgic the world over, not just in America. So all of the undertones of political issues that you’re layering on here isn’t inherent to the human feeling of nostalgia. Now The Dukes of Hazzard is problematic for a great many reasons as this post highlights. So it’s totally fair to call that out. But it’s also totally fair to remember being a kid and liking a show where guys break the rules with fast cars. It doesn’t mean that he’s a bigot that wants to drag us all back to the '70s.
I say, as long as you’re self aware and this feeling in nostalgia doesn’t push you in the direction of Trump or Andrew Tate, then go for it.
How dare you bring reason and nuance to the conversation? You damn centrist! It’s you and people like you that embolden the right in their shenanigans! Only by not tolerating this intolerant symbolism can we rid ourselves of these fascist cults!
Or so the story goes…
lemmy just hates people who humiliate cops on a daily basis i would guess
People make out it is some sort of factually wrong documentary
Say what you will about stupid people, but I have to tell you this: I’ve had more than a few people tell me they did not wear seat belts because “the Dukes never wore seat belts”
I am not even fucking kidding about this. It’s not just about people today treating this TV show like it was a depiction of reality, it’s about people at the time doing the exact same thing.
It was lovely then. I miss not giving a shit about words.
We gave a shit back then too, they just were different words that we cared about.
Don’t forget the rather unfortunate usage of a bunch of people cruising around in the Confederate car all being named “Duke.”
See, there was once a man named David, who was the leader of a wacky little group of goofballs back in the '70s. That li’l jokester even went so far as to get everyone to call him a grand wizard, which is such a zany thing to ask people to do, but people totally did it with a straight face
Anyway, I wonder if it’s a coincidence. Who knows?
He wasn’t a big name here in the Midwest, at least, until he gained national prominence by winning a seat in the Louisiana legislature in '89, thus becoming the face of the pit of foul putrescence at the heart of the GOP. (Anybody who thinks that Republicans turned batshit-evil in 2016 was at least 27 years late.)
Probably more likely the name is a reference to Civil War Confederate General Basil Duke. Or perhaps the name merely is meant to invoke the idea of the Dukes as important, “noble” figures in Hazzard County, or at least more noble than the corrupt Boss Hogg. Or maybe a cigar is just a cigar in this case.
He was leader in 1989. The first episode was in 1979, a decade earlier.
Wikipedia seems to disagree. I believe you may be thinking of when he took political office, not when he started as Grand Wizard of the Idiot Brigade.
As a non American, the confederate flag on the roof always seemed strange to me, to put it lightly
The name of the car leaves little room for interpretation.
It means absolutely nothing to non seppos mate
Funny, since I’m not a seppo. I just had a high school education in eastern europe.
What is a seppo?
aussie slang for american. seppo = septic tank = yank
That seems a lot more than “mildly” derogatory.
Are we “seppos” because we are septic tanks, or are we supposedly inclined to have septic tanks?
Because I’ll lightly disagree with one of those, only because most people I’ve met and places I’ve lived have used public sewage systems.
Edit: nevermind, read further on the definition page. It’s a rhyming thing (kind of?) and we’re full of shit. I’m on board with that.
As a Yank, I have to say I find ‘seppo’ highly entertaining, and at least somewhat accurate for many of my countrymen. A lot of your slang is funny as all get out, and some of your music is pretty good too.
Fucken great slang for us honestly. I’m not even mad with the sewage we spew all over the world.
right? I like it for us. its accurate and it’s fun to say.
That just doesn’t look as cool for some reason. I guess because the crush orange is a pretty great color for a car, and also because the American flag isn’t symmetrical enough.
Maybe go with a Ford muscle car with the Ford blue. Can’t help on the asymmetrical flag, though.
What’s the name of the car?
Edit: Nevermind. Looked at the picture again and I’m guessing it’s called General Lee.
Correct!
True, and yet, at the same time: The show’s main antagonist was named Jefferson Davis Hogg. There’s no way the choice of a Confederate General for the car (the show’s non-human protagonist) and the Confederate President for the antagonist was an accident, I just have no idea what they were trying to say there.
I was too young back then.
In hindsight, this show was a terrible idea.
Glorification of the Confederates and the protagonists called “the good old boys” would be instantaneously shut down and called out today for the racist white supremacist idea that it is.
racist white supremacist idea
Oh FFS, if you were young then you also remember All in the Family and The Jeffersons, shows that were in-your-face anti-racist. Prime time was hardly in a mood for racist bullshit.
What if I said the show was racist because it showed white, country people as wide-eyed, stupid hicks? How ridiculous does that sound?
What if I said the show was racist because it showed white, country people as wide-eyed, stupid hicks? How ridiculous does that sound?
Pretty ridiculous, considering you’d be comparing making classist jokes with the glorification of a nation founded to maintain the enslavement of black people.
In the 70s in the south people knew what that flag meant, just like they know what it means now.
‘redneck dumbass’ isn’t a race, though.
A good point. “All in the Family” was based on a British show called “Till Death Us Do Part”. That show featured a main character called Alf Garnett who was very racist and sexist. He was intended to mock the reactionary working class conservatives of the time but people dismissed the show as being in favour of the things that the character came out with because they couldn’t understand the satire.
He’s called Archie Bunker in the States and a lot of older Americans (Boomers and Xers mostly) love him because he shares their views. They don’t get that that’s a bad thing and he’s shown to be wrong and backward on the show.
I may be giving too much but I think some writers tried to steer public opinion lessen hatred using characters like Archie as a tool. If you pay attention over the course of the series while he never becomes good a lot of the hate lessened and he’ll admit people or things he hated were ok.
I.e. the racists become emotionally attached to him, so when Archie “learns” they will. (In theory)
I do think that was the intent. All in the Family was progressive show for the time.
The same type of people that thought The Colbert Show was serious.
Except that they are now seen as affirmation of the racism nowadays. They miss the point entirely.
The shows antagonists were a wealthy business man turned politician who wielded the corrupt police force to feed his own power and oppress the common folk. And while his nickname was Boss Hogg, the villain’s canon name was Jefferson Davis Hogg. Pretty literally calling the cops confederate pigs.
Definitely a lot of problematic elements to the show, but there’s some good there too. And I’m sure it influenced a ton of car action sequences for decades.
Yes the show itself outside some very visible totems like the car unfortunately, didn’t really touch on issues of bigotry and racism. Had it just been about a back woods moonshining family in an unmarked car harassing the corrupt governor and police. There wouldn’t be a lot of uproar. Hell it might be embraced.
To be fair, virtually everything more than 20 years old is some flavor of “problematic” today.
Not really. Those that aren’t are still appreciated today still. Like the Golden Girls or Fresh Prince.
Like the Golden Girls or Fresh Prince.
You know an episode of Golden Girls was pulled from Hulu for blackface right? Or the jokes about Dorothy’s rape (there are several of those)?
Or “Wham, Bam, Thank You Mammy” , Maurgerite in general or having the same actor play different characters with different ethnicities that are broadly the same general color (for example Mr. Tanaka and Dr. Chang played by the same actor so apparently the show can’t tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese people?), racist jokes about Chinese food, things Sophia had to say about Cubans, Puerto Ricans and Arabs, Rose in a Native American headdress, Rose pretending to be an exchange student, Blanche defending the Confederate flag… Yeah, there’s a lot problematic about Golden Girls and a lot of it was about race.
I suspect I could spit out a similar list of examples for Fresh Prince if I dug down on it, though it probably would be less about race and more about sex or disability or weight or sexual orientation or some other demographic line that was a common well for comedy back then that is a problematic -ism or -phobia now.
It’s just a symbol of their heritage. Of white supremacy.
Looks like them racist boys are at it again
Apart from the confederate flag itself, this show was pretty much anarchist. They spent every episode humiliating the cops and breaking any righteous law they could. The show treated the flag as set dressing.
They also came from a family that canonically resisted the Union during the civil war. And there’s very few black people in the show whatsoever. So.
I know the hate symbol has always been a hate symbol, but if there’s any show where you could say “it was a product of its time” (the 70’s, btw) I think it’s this one.
Back in those times, people didn’t really knew what it meant, so it got used as a “regular rebel flag”, then white supremacists claimed they just flying it for “heritage” and “rebel” reasons…
“Someday, the mountain might get’ em, but the law never will.”
Plus the black people that do appear in the show are always equals to the Hazard Boys. They never depict the Hazard Boys being anything but accepting of everyone except Boss Hog and his law dawgs.
And they were always wary of going into the next country because their sheriff actually had his shit together and would bring the pain to the Duke boys. That sheriff happens to be black.
Right? If anything, they’re mocking the southern, rich, white, fat cat, stereotype.
There’s a whole episode of The Cleveland Show (as in Cleveland Brown, the black character from Family Guy) where Cleveland gets upset at his neighbor friend for flying a Confederate flag on his house and finally tries to get rid of it. When he fails, he confronts the hick neighbor and calls him a racist. The neighbor doesn’t understand why Cleveland is upset and when Cleveland points to the flag the neighbor says, “What, my Dukes of Hazard flag?”
Cleveland immediately realizes he approached the problem from the completely wrong angle and drops the matter indefinitely. They continue to be friends.
I was never into it or pretty much anything country-related, being an Airwolf, Mission Impossible (the reboot), and MacGuyver kinda kid, but Dad liked it, and explained it to me pretty much the way you did.
I was like 3 when airwolf went off the air, but the theme song still pops into my head occasionally. That show was awesome.
Just for you, what is easily the best cover of this theme.
Excellent, thank you! I might have to look into where that is streaming
Sure, and the context of “that time” was yet another Southern Grievance over the checks notes
Civil Rights Act and continued victories against bigotry in the decade leading to Dukes.
Including police officers enforcing laws like desegregation of schools.
Fun Exercise Btw:
Pick a southern county, look up what years the private schools in the area were founded.
100% agreed.
Loved it. I had the curtains/drapes set. We didn’t know about the connection as kids.
Ummmm thighs 😋
