The moment I get ads in my Youtube Premium, it’s done with Youtube Premium, and done with Youtube.
…or else it gets the hose again???
I don’t think I specifically posted about it on lemmy but yeah, I also concluded youtube would be going further ‘pay to win’ around this time 2 years ago.
Twitch will keep getting more and more monetized / ad heavy as well, until it just gets shutdown.
I’ll be amazed if it still exists by the end of 2026.
Fuckingcapitalists
A story in three parts: get an adblocker, problem solved
Better: quit youtube premium, get an adblocker and live life hassle free
Best: Download it with Jdownloader, pay for the bandwidth once, build a library.
Never heard of Jdownloader, does it offer any benefits over yt-dlp?
The third part is youtube keeps implementing more sophisticated ad blocking to the point you can’t block ads…
I think its the opposite, the more the tighten the noose the more innovative our solutions are for getting around them. I got so pissed off at seeing half my video watching time go to ads that I found a youtube alternative that goes right on my firestick. I wouldnt have bothered doing all that if they had not pushed it too far, which they obviously have.
Idk I’m still blocking ads no problem.
They haven’t been successful yet.
They will break the internet as much as they need to in order to accomplish this.
Why would you pay for YouTube and then get an ad blocker? Seems redundant.
Also, YouTube has begun integrating ads server side, making them more difficult to parse out.
I don’t have premium I just have an ad blocker
Smart
“You’ve got to support the creators”
I spend so much money on Patreon and I never regret a penny of it
Me on my home lab Invidious instance: What are “ads”?
I’ve had some hideous collection of ABP, ublock, and some extension that hides all shorts all on chrome and I’ve somehow completely dodged all the drama in the past year. I’ve never had to manually update or fiddle with any settings. I’ve seen all the crap everyone else is getting, and I constantly think its right around the corner, but nothing. Sometimes the page loads funny and just shows a black rectangle, and i think welp they finally got to me, but an immediate refresh always fixes it. Maybe one day I’ll have to deal with it
I’ve dodged nearly everything with only Firefox + Ublock + Ghostery. The most I ever got was maybe one warning page on YouTube and never seen anything about it again.
The guy who took this screenshot and posted it to Redditnl likely has Premium Lite, which still shows ads on music videos. The title of the video is probably cut out to hide it.
I think you are right. And the OP look like they are in Germany where they are testing these plans. https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/17/24272930/youtube-cheaper-premium-lite-subscription-limited-ads
You could also recreate this by using revanced to change the banner to yt premium but forgetting to apply the ad block patch
Premium Lite is hilarious branding. “Oh, it’s high quality, but like, less. Quality Lite”
It’s like when they sell a medium pizza but no small. Bitch, you can’t have “medium” if you don’t have a small and large to compare it to!
Actually I don’t know if it’s like that at all…
“All animals are born equal, but some are born more equal than others”
Worse experience than with just ublock origin AND you get to pay for it. Imagine being this much of a sucker
Basically the point is that you don’t have to pay for the music side of Premium if you already have a different music subscription, which I think is nice. The branding is a little silly though.
They are diversifying their plans to enhance user experience or some bullshit
People who use premium should organize to vow to publicly shame and boycott any company putting adds in their premium plan.
Like anti commercials.
Premium doesn’t mean private
Yeah, the daymy I see an ad is the day I cancel my subscription
At what point do content creators stop creating content for this?
When there is a viable alternative
There are alternatives for the people who make money off the YouTube.
The Youtubers who do get paid enough to make a living from YouTube also make production quality content and have great gear and staff. They might as well sell their production to any other streaming service.
Something like Veritasium might as well be on Netflix as YouTube. Mr.Beast would fit in on Mtv…
Those both require subscriptions for access though instead of offering an ad based tier so that already excludes a majority of viewers from being able to move over from yt and those producers are unlikely to abandon their current audiences for a possibly bigger audience under a different corporation. I think that’s going to be necessary for a majority of viewers and producers to switch to another A/V distribution platform. If Netflix or MTV had an ad-only based tier and released apps for phones, Roku, browser, etc and allowed producer uploads then I suspect they could take a big chunk of Google’s yt viewership and profits.
When they stop getting paid.
Does anyone even buy anything because of these stupid ads?
I think I heard it put like this once (paraphrasing):
Ads aren’t to make you buy the product. Few people are gonna see a regular commercial about chocolate and go out and buy it. That’s not their intent. They’re meant for brand recognition. They’re about that moment in the supermarket when you have 50 choices of what soda to get. 40 of them are noname and store brands. You’ll almost never try them unless you want to save some money and/or aren’t interested in what you’re buying. But then you have your coke and pepsi. The old reliables - the names that are stuck in your head since forever. And sometimes you’ll want to check out the new mountain dew or dr pepper flavors, cause you’re curious. But when you’re not in the mood for new, when you just want a soda and don’t wanna think about it, you’ll get a coke or a pepsi or one of the few brands whose name you recognize.
After 1000 raid shadow legends ads, guess what you’re gonna feel like trying in 3 months when you get bored of your current mobile game and are scrolling through their top picks for games? “Hmm, Raid shadow legends? I’ve heard about this before, maybe I give it a try”
Sure, it backfires sometimes - for example, I always make it a point to not try out a game if I feel it’s been in too many ads - I don’t wanna waste time in something that blew its entire budget on marketing. But with most people this doesn’t happen. And I’m pretty sure even I tried some item from an ad that I said I’d never get - the name probably just got stuck in my head and I got it without even realizing it.
Marketers make a shit load of money based on human psychology. They wouldn’t be doing it if it didn’t work.
Yes, otherwise companies would not spend their money on them.
I wouldn’t as that’s just asking to get screwed
From what I understand, they’re already getting paid pennies by youtube, which is why many of them constantly shill for patreon/nebula/curiositystream/whatever on top of sponsored content. So youtube is shit for the creators, shit for the consumers, and a net loss for google. It’s the same non-business model as food delivery apps: nobody profits, yet it still somehow keeps going because modern economics is make-believe.
They even said it was a mistake when someone said they got ads before and it went viral. Google is evil.
Do? No! Evil!
Tbf it was already very telling when they removed that slogan
Fun thing, I don’t want to get YouTube Premium because YouTube has a huge bunch of bugs and glitches and crap UI design and since they’re the only service in the niche there’s been no indication they’ll ever fix their shit.
I didn’t care about YouTube Music, so losing ads on stock YouTube apps was literally the only reason I was even considering getting Premium.
But if it doesn’t even do the one job…?
VPN to a country with a lower cost, and sign up there. It used to be Turkey and India, where you could get a Family Plan for like $2/mo - but they’ve cracked down a bit on it.
We use YT for so much in our ‘household’ that it made sense to pool together and get Premium, and honestly it feels good having ~5 people who consume a tonne of content ad-free for nearly no cost while still supporting our preferred content creators.
They’ve brought the hammer down on this. I was happily ‘traveling to Ukraine’ with my Apple TV to watch YouTube without ads for the equivalent of around £3 a month for over a year. Last month they canned our Premium.
I use yt-dlp to download my subs into a Plex folder now. Fuck ‘em.
So they reduced their revenue from you from £3 to 0. Smooth move Google.
That’s fine, at least they just increased the family plan pricing by 60%. Oh, wait.
Yeah, 20€ instead of 13 for me
Premium+ coming in 2026 for truly ad-free experience. Premium++ coming in 2028 for truly truly ad-free experience. Premium+++ coming in 2030 for truly truly truly ad-free experience.
I for see Premium Deluxe this coming 2028.
Ad revenue is like crack to corporations. I think Google needs an intervention.
Needs euthanization
I can’t wait until computers and compression algorithms advance to the point where YouTube competitors become commercially viable!
Just kidding, YT will probably just blackmail their content creators into only posting on their platform and nowhere else to maintain their monopoly.
can’t wait until computers and compression algorithms advance to the point where YouTube competitors become commercially viable
hell just going back to regular cable is now viable for me, I might see less ads!
#re-attachingTheCord
Premium# coming in 2032 for truly truly truly ad-free experience.
Premium#+ coming in 2034 for truly truly truly ad-free experience.
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I heard tell from a Gen Xer who said cable TV used to not have ads.
Our national tv channel is lawfully barred from running commercials.
They just changed the definition of ads they run to “messages of commercial importance” or some dumb shit like that. And just like that, ads on the national channel are suddenly a-ok
PBS here has ads. They are short, but there are ads nonetheless. This is over and above the ads for their own shows that will be on the channel at a later date.
And some people argue against the death penalty. Argh.
Mixed truth. They carried broadcast networks that always had ads. Fox, NBC, ABC all had ads.
Comcast would even overwrite one or two of the network ads with their own ads. A commercial break would start, some life insurance BS would start playing audio compressed all to hell so it’s twice as loud, at the end, you’d catch 5 seconds of some toy commercial and then one or two other regular network commercials.Premium channels like HBO didn’t have ‘ads,’ but they did have station identification and self-promotion for what’s coming to the platform in the near future. They wouldn’t break the movies up, though, only in between. A few standouts didn’t start with ads like Nickelodeon, but eventually got them.
Saturday cartoons on USA and TNT certainly had ads from day one.
You’re lying. I can’t imagine this so it must be false!
Part 1: All of history from corporations becoming a thing to present day.
Part 2: The results of heartless corporate policy for the foreseeable future.
All of history from corporations becoming a thing to present day.
Corporations are people. The problem is that people are selfish greedy assholes.
