• starman2112@sh.itjust.works
    27·
    3 days ago

    Mint, judge me

    PS anyone have any favorite resources for absolute tech illiterate noobs? I’m trying, but without a baseline understanding of the subject, it’s hard to find the right guides

  • Skyline969@lemmy.caEnglish
    2101·
    5 days ago

    Linux Mint. Cinnamon. With a Windows Vista theme. It confuses and/or irritates everyone who sees it.

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17·
      5 days ago

      So going off the chalice in the movie, the distro that will save you from judgment is the plainest one – the one with the least bloat? That tracks.

        • barsquid@lemmy.world
          5·
          4 days ago

          More like Alpine or something else without systemd. I mean no shade (well, a bit of shade) since I’ve got Fedora myself. Alpine doesn’t even have glibc IIRC.

            • barsquid@lemmy.world
              61·
              4 days ago

              I think it is breaking the Unix philosophy, it is an enormous piece of code that does so many different things. My ideal is smaller components with smaller dependencies. When distros or software becomes inextricably dependent on systemd they are then beholden to whichever direction the maintainers take it.

              My take on it is somewhat based on “what if.” Other people have some pragmatic discussions on security aspects if you search around.

              • Zaemz@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                4 days ago

                I’m not a systemd guru, but I do find it relatively easy to work with.

                I’ve noticed that a lot of it is actually made up of separate binaries and daemons. Is it wrong or misleading to think of systemd as a collection of utilities that share a common DSL as opposed to a strict monolith?

          • pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io
            1·
            4 days ago

            Musl can be a bit annoying compilation target sometimes. Usually it works but I’ve debugged bugs a few times that were due to musl target.

            I prefer my distro with glibc…

      • Communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzEnglish
        10·
        4 days ago

        I highly recommend avoiding manjaro like the plague, their team is incredibly incompetent (see: https://manjarno.pages.dev/ ), I say this as someone who has given people manjaro for years and regretted it, I was also their it person, manjaro regularly broke every few months and gave people a very bad taste of linux

        for example, why are kernels given version numbers in packages? This caused 3 separate peoples computers to break multiple times. Everything good about manjaro comes from arch, everything bad about manjaro comes from the manjaro team.

        Y’know how it’s not rolling release because they delay packages by 2 weeks? They actually do no testing in this time. How do I know this? They pushed an update that caused steam to uninstall your desktop environment. Famously covered by linus tech tips… this is something that should have easily been caught, and yet the two week window did absolutely nothing.

        the truth is for manjaro there is no real usecase, there’s no set of desires that align with manjaro being the best choice for you. I am not asking you to switch away from manjaro, but I do not think we should ever recommend it to anyone, and on your next machine, I recommend trying the arch installer.

        But if what you’re looking for is an easy pre-setup arch, use endeavoros

        If you want something simple and up to date, use fedora kinoite

        If you’re a power user and want to configure every little thing about their system, use arch or nixos

        If you don’t care at all about updates and want the most rock solid system possible, debian.

        • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
          6·
          4 days ago

          If openSUSE Slowroll wasn’t experimental I’d recommend it in place of Manjaro. It’s a rolling release with monthly releases.

          • Dojan@lemmy.world
            3·
            4 days ago

            I really like Tumbleweed. Sure it updates a lot, but it doesn’t force updates so you can take it at your own pace.

            • Zaemz@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              4 days ago

              SUSE’s Open Build Service absolutely rules, too. I use Fedora personally, but would switch to Tumbleweed any day. I’ve gone back and forth, eventually settling on Fedora only because of familiarity with Red Hat.

              There are things I miss, big one being Zypper. It’s slow as balls but it’s usability and ability to dig through packages is unmatched, in my opinion.

        • Crismus@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 day ago

          I hear you. I was looking more for Arch with less of a hassle. Something similar to my Steamdeck. I guess I should just wipe this weekend for something else. I really want something for playing my steam and GOG games that works with my Nvidia 3080.

          Luckily for me I keep every game installed on different Steam Libraries so wiping my install drive to put something else in isn’t difficult.

          • Communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            What about arch is it that you want?

            I do a ton of distro research because I try to convert people to linux a lot so I might be able to help you with that.

            https://bazzite.gg/ this is probably what you want, make sure to install the nvidia version.

  • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
    676·
    4 days ago

    That’s all well and good, but can we talk about proper use of this meme template?

  • fleton@lemmy.world
    4·
    3 days ago

    Just curious does anyone actually care about what distro people use or more just a meme?

  • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    7·
    3 days ago

    The one that does what I need it to do on the device I’m running it on. I’ve currently got four different Linux distros on x86 PCs around my house at this moment.

  • forrcaho@lemmy.world
    3·
    3 days ago

    Distro wars, like the old vi vs emacs wars (showing my age, I know) is not entirely serious. I never understood sportsball fandom, but it’s kind of like that. Debian is my home team; if you use Fedora, you’re from out-of-town.

  • meliante@lemmy.world
    21·
    4 days ago

    Fedora Workstation 40.

    On windows until last year, after trying 11 on my T440s which made it unbearably slow so had to start over but instead of going back to 10 tried a bunch of distros.

    Fedora stuck, mainly because of gnome vanilla (I really like the paradigm, don’t care about deep personalisation) and how everything just worked great.

    Fight me?

    • twei@discuss.tchncs.de
      10·
      4 days ago

      Nah, Fedora is a valid choice, just like Ubuntu is. Both are great if you don’t care that much about personalization and just want a solid distro to get work done.

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
        83·
        4 days ago

        Fedora is pretty much the new Ubuntu more or less. Ubuntu has gone so far downhill that I can’t recommend it to anyone and that’s been the case for quite a while.

  • Allero@lemmy.today
    111·
    3 days ago

    Ooookay, this will get controversial.

    Proud Manjaro/Debian user!

    • Ubuntu and derivatives suck because of Canonical and their practices
    • Fedora sucks because of Red Hat
    • OpenSUSE sucks because RPM (why?!) and still SUSE (but they’re the best of the three)
    • Rest is exotic and obscure

    So we end up with Arch and Debian. Debian 12 is good enough as is, and runs on a work laptop where I don’t care about anything but stability. Arch is respectable and great, but requires excessive maintenance to work properly. Among its derivatives, Endeavour is just a nicer archinstall (so, why?), Garuda is cool but unstable and too gamer’y, Manjaro is a bit problematic at times but generally the safest bet when it comes to Arch. So, when it comes to my main PC doubling as a gaming rig, this is a no-brainer.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.world
      14·
      4 days ago

      It’s wonderful how the expression “humble Arch Linux user” manages to pack a contradiction in a mere 4 words.

  • tslnox@reddthat.com
    3·
    3 days ago

    I’ve been a Windows… Let’s say a power-user, no expert but I could install it, find a way to troubleshoot most problems. Then at high school a friend lent me a bit outdated Knoppix CD. I never managed to make ppp work on that so no internet, but I loved the old KDE. Somewhat later, when we had a normal DSL line with a proper router, I got Fedora. Then Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian for a while…

    Finally I found Gentoo. And there I am, some 10 years later, still on that. After a bit of a bumpy road of the first install (no automation, but the handbook is very helpful if you know the basic Linux and HW terms) it was almost flawless. I remember two problems, and both of them were my own fault. The first one was some testing kernel version that had a bug where small files on ext3 filesystem would get randomly corrupted. The second was when I was trying to remove some hidden files, mangled the command and ran basically rm -rf /* (seriously, don’t do that, it will delete everything on your system). I reinstalled the system (I had data on a different drive that either wasn’t mounted atm or it didn’t reach them before I Ctrl-c’d that command.) and all was well.

    Finally I did last clean install when I bought new (used) Ryzen build to replace my old i5-2500k, I would’ve had to recompile world anyway and I had pretty much dependency hell of my own making at that point (I was testing tons of unstable stuff, new Plasma 5 from testing repo and so on).

    Now I’m running mostly stable system with only bunch of packages unmasked from testing and there are no problems with that. I never had that with any other distro. No matter if Deb based, rpm based, sooner or later I inevitably ran into some variant of “I need a package that’s not in basic repo, and the package I found requires a version of some library that’s not available as well” or something like that. In Gentoo, the packages either compile against the version you have installed, or if not possible, you can have more versions installed at the same time in different slots. Also if you need something that’s not available in repo, you can just write a text file that downloads and compiles the version you need and it integrates in the package manager automatically, no need to create whole Deb/rpm package.