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FISH AND CHIPS INNIT
Curry on chips!
He’s only really angry in the US shows though.
And is that Bill Burr?
Yeah, it’s Bill Burr.
They used them for tea
I can’t seem to find it, but this reminds me of a greentext that’s stuck with me for years. The gist of it is that most of British history can be summed up as sailing around the world looking for something good to eat.
Maybe this one?
That’s not the one I was thinking of, but I’m happy that you posted it as it’s pretty great.
Are you sure it’s a greentext and not this old saying “The beauty of their women and the taste of their food make brits the best sailors in the world.”.
Britain conquered the world for spices, then decided they didn’t like any of them.
Britain is a little bit autistic. Loves order. Hates sensory overload.
It’s called the “ashamed colonizer fish and chips”. It uses only homegrown ingredients. Britons are just too ashamed of their actions to make us of stolen food in their national dishes.
Fish and chips was invented by Jewish immigrants. Our food is a melting pot of different influences from a myriad of different cultures, and we like it that way.
Except that England’s national dish is chicken tikka masala.
Invented in Glasgow,Scotland.
Using ingredients only afforded through colonization.
It was the 1970’s and an Indian owned restaurant, I think they probably just bought the spices.
God, I fucking love curry. How people can think English food is bland completely baffles me. Fuck, even roast beef comes which extremely hot mustard or horseradish.
There’s an English pub near me that makes both and I love them. The roast beef comes in a Guinness gravy but no horseradish.
I’m from Portugal, who together with Spain started the so-called “Age Of Discovery” back in the late 14th century and for a long time had sugar plantations in Brasil.
Not only does the local culinary have an insane variety of cakes and sweets (I suspect that, whilst monks in convents in other countries were finding new ways to brew beer, the ones in Portugal were just inventing new desserts) but most traditional culinary dishes use one more spices that do not grow locally or at least did not originate locally (you also see a similar effect when it comes to other ingredients: for example the frequent use of tomato that originate from the Americas or Oranges that originate from China)
I also lived in both England and The Netherlands, both countries which were much more successful at trade with and conquest of the “discovered” lands than Portugal, and the local culinary tradition in both is way smaller and blander.
The problem with food traditions in the UK is that fuck all grows there due to climate. And all the cool imported stuff was traditionally very expensive, thus only accessible to the rich. Portugal has a much better climate for growing food, so back in the days you could import some seeds, plant them locally and exotic stuff became cheap and available to everyone. Brits couldn’t do that really, so exotic stuff was rare and mere mortals didn’t know about it.
This meme brought to you by people who think high fructose corn syrup is an ingredient
In the same vein, putting highly transformed industrial sweets in your homemade bakery to make it cooler.
There’s people other than you and the Yanks
ur tragically misinformed if u think individuals think any such thing rather than the use of cheap sweeteners being a decision made by corporate interest
Thinks Brits don’t use spices
Calls them tragically misinformed
😂
wasn’t talking to brits in this comment, this is a common sentiment from many people groups, cheers!
Glad you can still type with your gigantic sausage fingers, old bean
They do put pepper on their day glo mushy peas. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
Largest people on earth. Hoorah!
BIGLY
Contrary to popular belief, in terms of health, high-fructose corn syrup is not really worse for you than sugar. It’s very unhealthy, of course, but that’s because it’s sweet, not because of its chemical properties.
That being said, in many things (such as soda), people prefer the taste of sugar over high fructose corn syrup.
Process sugar is almost as bad for you as Corn syrup.
There is no such thing. Sugar is sugar, and it is exactly as bad for you as corn syrup. Sugar is either in short chains (where we call it “sugar”) or in long chains (in which case it is called “starch”)
molasses?
The sweetness from molasses comes from the sugar contained inside it.
I agree too much sugar in any way is bad for you.
Unrefined brown sugar undergoes less processing than white sugar, allowing it to retain some of its molasses content and natural brown color. Molasses is what you get before the refinement and crystallization with animal bones, then you get the processed white sugar. You can turn white sugar back to brown sugar by adding molasses. Neither is healthy in large amounts. Brown sugar gas slightly more minerals.
Corn syrup is easier to consume.
Disolve equal quantities of sugar and corn syrup in a drink. You will get sated of the sugar version faster than then corn syrup version.
YOUS PUT IT IN YOUR FECKIN BREAD
Just checked now. The loaf of sliced bread in my pantry does not contain high fructose corn syrup.
I guarantee if I look up the biggest selling sliced bread in the US, it’s got HFCS in it, and I also guarantee you’d say, yeah well nobody eats that
😂
Try making sure what you’re saying is correct before confidently talking out of your ass:
This is the nutrition label for Wonder Bread, the epitome of trashy American sandwich bread. It does not contain high fructose corn syrup. What it does contain, however, is sugar. As I said, high fructose corn syrup is not worse than sugar anyway, and all bread has sugar in it because it’s necessary for the yeast to rise. American-style sliced sandwich bread does tend to be sweeter than the round sort, but that’s not a high fructose corn syrup problem. Even if it did have high fructose corn syrup, that literally wouldn’t change anything about its health value.
Again, high fructose corn syrup is not worse than sugar. If every product in the world that uses sugar were reformulated to use an equivalent amount of high fructose corn syrup, health-wise nothing would change (but the flavour may be different). Decrying high fructose corn syrup but being okay with sugar is just ignorance of science, full stop.
If corn were as cheap everywhere else around the world as it is in America, literally every country would have processed foods containing high fructose corn syrup instead of sugar, because it is basically completely the same.
Edit: And before you make a comment talking about the length of the ingredients list, it’s partially because American food labelling laws are way stricter than elsewhere in the world, requiring manufacturers to label far more ingredients and with far more detail. Sliced sandwich bread sold elsewhere is probably made of exactly the same stuff, but the manufacturer probably just isn’t legally required to tell you about it.
Weird. Every single link I look at says it’s one of the key ingredients
Example with photo of label
The recipe probably changes from time to time.
What’s bad about corn syrup is how fucking cheap it is (subsidized to hell or not). So they put it in way more things, keep us all addicted to sweet stuff and rake in profits at the same time.
Also see soy in everything (my wife is allergic so I’m biased, but it’s really nuts how many things (again, bread?) it’s in).
Contrary to popular belief, it’s not that we think that corn sirup is worse, its that we KNOW yall use truckloads of it on everything <3 :)
Industry uses it. The only time most anyone uses corn syrup is for pecan pie which is admittedly gross
Well the popularity of Indian food kind of puts the lie to this. Though I suppose it makes more sense to simply switch to Indian food, rather than to try to tart up the wretched crap that passed for food in the UK before colonialism.
You joke but today Curries are one of the most popular takeaway options in the UK. Only took us til after decolonisation.
Some of them were invented in the UK. Unheard of in India
As a second gen Indian in the UK, so much of my family’s dishes are based on sauces with tomatoes and chilli, many of them have potato. But none of these are actually native to India, these would have been brought over after the colonialisation of the Americas.
Hey, don’t bad mouth salt seasoning! Portugal uses plenty of it (due to using salt preservation in the old days) and i think their food is pretty damn good!
Its funny how people assume colonization benefitted all Brits equally, and spices, tea (& riches) weren’t hoarded by royalty and the gentry.
How the hell do you think the East India Company got so rich? It wasn’t by selling it to… shudder … normal and… wretching… poor people. They can stick to their traditional true British spice, Salt & vinegar! /s
But you’d think some of the rich people recipes would make their way to what’s now known as British cuisine.
Oh Yeah! Like they’d earn all the money and they’d spend it by paying wages & share what they imported with common folk. It’ll all trickle down to the rest of us… eventually, right? /s
What are you talking about? I’m saying some fancy food recipes which were used only by the rich should not be lost to time. Has nothing to do with what you’re saying.
Ok being serious then, the meme (& most people) refer to working class British dishes like fish & chips, beans on toast, bangers and mash which don’t have a lot of spice used in them. Many of them were probably invented, adapted & popularized by working class people during post world war 2 rationing.
I’m sure authentic British recipes do contain “rich people” food, but memes and pejoratives about their cuisine ignores or doesn’t know about such food.
Its like a meme mentioning American food as burgers & gravy, while pedants would argue Mexican food is also American. Ignoring why North Americans (mostly poor people) eat fast food and the socio-economic factors that forces them to eat low nutrition food.
Recipes, to be used with which spices, huh? If they won’t use them they might as well not exist. Now it’s cheaper but the general population didn’t use them so it doesn’t really count.
ooh valuable insight into how this came to be, thank u for helping me challenge my heretofore unquestioned assumptions :)
American here, but I think a lot of Americans have not actually been to Britain and eaten their food.
I have, but I don’t actually remember the food. That must mean it was fine since I don’t remember anything being bad.
London seemed like most other large cities to me, in that there was a wide variety of food from different cuisines available. It’s not like every restaurant was all jellied eels and boiled meat.
This meme reminds me of the “Going for an English” sketch: https://youtu.be/H-uEx_hEXAM?feature=shared
Anglo-Indian cuisine is a product of the British colonization of India and the fusion of British and Indian culinary traditions. This unique blending of flavors and techniques creates a cuisine that is both savory and flavorful, while remaining distinct from traditional Indian or British dishes.
Americans visited the UK during WW2’s rationing and never updated their stereotypes.
A lot of stereotypes sure, but this one is a valid one. Who the fuck eats beans on toast….?
Who the fuck eats peanuts in coca cola?
Bold talk from the nation that eats cheese from a spray can.
Don’t be mad we actually make better cheddar than the UK.
Also, not gonna lie, cheezwhiz has its place. It’s just not the height of culinary cuisine.
Ha! Don’t make me spit out my tea. Your cheddar is cheese-flavored plastic in comparison.
To that I say, you must not have heard of Wisconsin.
What you call cheese cant be sold under the label “cheese” in the UK or the EU, due to it being so shit and lacking in actual cheese.
I lived in Wisconsin for a year. Most supermarkets had 3 types of cheese:
yellow, orange and mixed. They all tasted the same.
Hey now some of us grew up on Pasteurized Prepared Cheese Product that can’t really be called cheese on it’s own.
Here in America we eat freedom cheese, meaning cooperations are free to add whatever they want to our foods unlike in the EU, where certain chemicals are not allowed in your foods. Yay for obesity. We have Pink Slime and chemically sprayed potatoes to prevent black spots on our McDonald’s Freedom Fries.
Three bean salad with croutons, hummus on pita bread, vegetarian burritos are all technically beans on toast
And what goes into beans on toast? That’s right: cumin, paprika, garlic, onion, pepper… Spices
I am amused by the fact that the word “distinct” sounds similar to “Dis stink!”
gross colonizer language, verging on racist. don’t make jokes like this dawg. not funny.
TIL that dialects are racist?
If it’s curry it’s Indian, just like American Chinese takeout is American but still Chinese and Pizza is American but still Italian. The flavors derived from those specific cultures to spice up the bland food people were used to. Tea was mostly a Chinese tradition and the Indians stole it to trade with Britain, because it was cheaper.
True, but I would argue that American Chinese food is a distinct cuisine in its own right, just as Anglo-Indian is.
If the argument is that the British Empire didn’t incorporate seasonings and spices into its own traditional cuisine, then I’d argue that none of the European powers did. French cuisine is still undeniably French and spice-less, despite their colonialist history in Africa and the Caribbean.
too bad they had to keep it distinct, could have been greatness
