No, it seems that your point is that women should not talk about their reasons and fears about being alone in the woods with a man they don’t know if it makes random men in the comment section feel attacked.
If there had been no hypothetical bear in the question, no men would be getting angry. “I feel wary around strange men” is an obvious statement.
And then when men get angry specifically because of the bear, all you smug fucks ignore the bear and pretend we’re saying it’s wrong to be wary around strangers at all.
There is no winning! All the “not all men” and “that’s misandry” dorks show up every single time a woman warns others to be careful around strangers.
As always, what women think needs to be filtered through what any random man can stand to hear. Women can’t discuss even their physical safety if it hurts a man’s feelings.
That is LITERALLY wrong. Absolutely not what I or women are saying.
Women in this thread seem to think otherwise which is mind boggling.
🙄🙄🙄
Just forget about the man for a second…she would pick death? What?
You are changing the premises so you can feel insulted by it.
It is safer to be in the woods with a random bear, than a random man. Not WOULD RATHER BE ATTACKED BY, its that the statically speaking the bear is probably going to mind its own business, while a man who knows we are alone can seek us out. Women feel that a random man is more likely to cause harm us harm, than a bear existing in the woods.
You’re entirely missing the point of the discussion.
I get that the way your post is phrased so that it’s shocking and incites an emotional reaction from men, thus further increasing the reach of your post. It’s valuable in the way that it gets the message out, helping everyone learn.
But you can’t then expect it not to be shocking and incite an emotional reaction from men, and then demonise them for not immediately seeing your point of view. It immediately undermines the ability to have a conversation about very real women’s issues.
You can’t expect men to be cold calculating machines that automatically have the required knowledge and emotional intelligence to see through this esoteric bear question. Hell, there’s a good chunk of women on side man
By no means? “Either you confess to being a monster or your denial is evidence you’re a monster”. I’m saying that I’m not a monster, but there are people like me that are. Those are very different statements.
Quite the unnuanced words you’re putting in my mouth. Some men are monsters. This is a true statement that you’re degrading for… reasons. I assert that I am not one while recognizing that they exist. Should it be revealed that I am in fact a monster, feel free to shove these words down my throat. I’m perfectly comfortable with women assuming I’m untrustworthy until given reason to do otherwise
Still remains the patently false dichotomy and kafkatrap. It’s a shit rhetorical device that serves no good. This isn’t even careful nuance, it’s pretty obvious.
That is my point. The meme deliberately presented a no-win bind.
No, it seems that your point is that women should not talk about their reasons and fears about being alone in the woods with a man they don’t know if it makes random men in the comment section feel attacked.
If there had been no hypothetical bear in the question, no men would be getting angry. “I feel wary around strange men” is an obvious statement.
And then when men get angry specifically because of the bear, all you smug fucks ignore the bear and pretend we’re saying it’s wrong to be wary around strangers at all.
There is no winning! All the “not all men” and “that’s misandry” dorks show up every single time a woman warns others to be careful around strangers.
As always, what women think needs to be filtered through what any random man can stand to hear. Women can’t discuss even their physical safety if it hurts a man’s feelings.
No mens feeling are hurt here you’re presenting a false dichotomy. You’re literally saying death is better than men.
Make no mistake there is no “maybe the bear will hurt me”
The bear will fucking kill you.
Women in this thread seem to think otherwise which is mind boggling.
Just forget about the man for a second…she would pick death? What?
TIL that I’ve died dozens of times due to bear fucking killing me
That is LITERALLY wrong. Absolutely not what I or women are saying.
🙄🙄🙄
You are changing the premises so you can feel insulted by it.
It is safer to be in the woods with a random bear, than a random man. Not WOULD RATHER BE ATTACKED BY, its that the statically speaking the bear is probably going to mind its own business, while a man who knows we are alone can seek us out. Women feel that a random man is more likely to cause harm us harm, than a bear existing in the woods.
You’re entirely missing the point of the discussion.
That’s the whole reason we’re angry dude, we get the point, we’re just saying it’s insulting and misandrist. Men are not monsters.
Y’all would be mad if there was no bear and there was no woman. Some of y’all just want to be mad.
I get that the way your post is phrased so that it’s shocking and incites an emotional reaction from men, thus further increasing the reach of your post. It’s valuable in the way that it gets the message out, helping everyone learn.
But you can’t then expect it not to be shocking and incite an emotional reaction from men, and then demonise them for not immediately seeing your point of view. It immediately undermines the ability to have a conversation about very real women’s issues.
You can’t expect men to be cold calculating machines that automatically have the required knowledge and emotional intelligence to see through this esoteric bear question. Hell, there’s a good chunk of women on side man
This is a false dichotomy. The third option is to realize that there are monsters that look like you and that they should be addressed.
Like the bear? The bear that will definitely kill you?
That’s just the first option.
By no means? “Either you confess to being a monster or your denial is evidence you’re a monster”. I’m saying that I’m not a monster, but there are people like me that are. Those are very different statements.
To you, maybe, but not to the horde. You’re still saying “men are monsters”, you’re just personally exempting yourself.
Quite the unnuanced words you’re putting in my mouth. Some men are monsters. This is a true statement that you’re degrading for… reasons. I assert that I am not one while recognizing that they exist. Should it be revealed that I am in fact a monster, feel free to shove these words down my throat. I’m perfectly comfortable with women assuming I’m untrustworthy until given reason to do otherwise
Still remains the patently false dichotomy and kafkatrap. It’s a shit rhetorical device that serves no good. This isn’t even careful nuance, it’s pretty obvious.
Maybe because I’m a monster?
IT’S NOT FALSE, YOU’RE FUCKING DOING IT RIGHT NOW DUDE
Use your words. How is it false. I think some stuff got lost in the formatting.
You can click “show context” if you’ve forgotten what the conversation is about.