• maniclucky@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    By no means? “Either you confess to being a monster or your denial is evidence you’re a monster”. I’m saying that I’m not a monster, but there are people like me that are. Those are very different statements.

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      6 months ago

      To you, maybe, but not to the horde. You’re still saying “men are monsters”, you’re just personally exempting yourself.

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        6 months ago

        Quite the unnuanced words you’re putting in my mouth. Some men are monsters. This is a true statement that you’re degrading for… reasons. I assert that I am not one while recognizing that they exist. Should it be revealed that I am in fact a monster, feel free to shove these words down my throat. I’m perfectly comfortable with women assuming I’m untrustworthy until given reason to do otherwise

        Still remains the patently false dichotomy and kafkatrap. It’s a shit rhetorical device that serves no good. This isn’t even careful nuance, it’s pretty obvious.

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          6 months ago

          Some men are monsters. This is a true statement that you’re degrading for… reasons.

          Maybe because I’m a monster?

          IT’S NOT FALSE, YOU’RE FUCKING DOING IT RIGHT NOW DUDE

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                6 months ago

                I’m aware.

                How is the dichotomy true? It’s predicated on “all men are monsters” and that’s patently false, thus the arguments proceeding it are false.

                I acknowledged an additional outcome (more like two outcomes, one cascading from the other): “some men are monsters and I am not one of them”. With no further statement. Should you wish to brand me as a monster, the onus is on you to prove it.

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                  6 months ago

                  I’m not getting dragged into a pedantic semantics argument. If you think “okay, I agree that all X are horrible, but not me, I’m one of the good ones” works on a mob, be it on your head.

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                  6 months ago

                  I feel like the people getting bent out of shape simply don’t understand how logic works and just want to be upset. Kudos on you for trying though