Well, if you prefer to die than to get tortured or whatever, then you might as well just smash your head in, in regards to this idiotic scenario. And no, if both are definitely predators, then the bear is definitely coming for you, just as the man is. You may be able to scare away some little black bears, but try that with a big brown bear, a grizzly or even a polar bear.
Also bears are massively likely to just leave you the fuck alone.
Men are more likely to just leave you the fuck alone. That’s the whole reason why this entire scenario is ridiculous and sexist.
Also bears are massively likely to just leave you the fuck alone.
Men are more likely to just leave you the fuck alone.
Oh totally, but if both are predators, and the bear is already a predator. Then surely that makes the man more likely to attack?
The problem is that this argument isn’t about facts, it’s all about (valid) feelings.
If I agree that factually a bear is more likely to harm you in an encounter. Can you agree that enough men exhibit predatory behaviour towards women that it’s understandable for them to choose bear?
Sure, if you also agree that this type of divisive stuff is just driving already troubled people into the incel corner as well.
I could tell you a lot of anecdotes about women and what they do, too. But imagine how I’d get labeled and shunned if I were to apply the behavior of those onto all women, based on their sex or gender. It’s hypocritical and overall just not helpful. Those type of “memes” are ultimately just going to be also responsible for those perceived feelings of a lack of safety around men, and men seeing women as toxic and hateful.
100% agree that the question’s framing is divisive and inflammatory. I also hate the “All Men” garbage, I find the phrase “Enough Men” to be a lot better for getting the point across.
A lot of discourse nowadays seems to ignore that men are people too, and that they have emotions, often emotions that society pressures them not to have. It’s got to be hard repeatedly being told you’re a monster just because of the way you’re born.
There’s this expectation that men should be capable of looking after themselves, but at the same time should just take abuse and deal with it “like a man”.
I think you should be able to criticise women’s behaviour, enough women are shitty in a uniquely woman way that it needs to be open to criticism. I see your point that you’re likely to get shunned or downvoted to oblivion though, assuming you’re not just straight up banned. It’s upsetting that the world is as messed up and awkward as it is
I’ll get downvoted by incels and femcels alike, because I refuse to take either one of their extremistic positions and views. Same happens when the topic is about political extremism and Tankies & Nazis suddenly unite in hating me for not joining one of their sides either. Honestly though, the downvotes and upvotes are all over the place in this thread and whoever posted the rage bait originally definitely succeeded in riling people up.
Are you seriously questioning why men are trying to defend themselves against the allegation that they’re all rapists and more dangerous than a bear? What if we make a rage baiting meme that calls all women manipulative cheaters? Do you think women would feel offended, try to refute that statement and call it sexist or not?
No one is saying all men are rapists. Sheesh. I thought women were supposed to be the ones who are overreacting here.
If a man said “I would rather be in the woods with a bear than a woman,” I’d pity him and listen to what he has to say. I wouldn’t make it all about me, personally. Because I don’t have a fragile ego.
If you’re preferring a dangerous predator over a random ass man, then yes, you’re implying exactly that.
If a man said “I would rather be in the woods with a bear than a woman,” I’d pity him and listen to what he has to say. I wouldn’t make it all about me, personally. Because I don’t have a fragile ego.
Now we’re at men are pitiful and have fragile egos. lol
This is all standard femcel lingo. You can do better.
Well, if you prefer to die than to get tortured or whatever, then you might as well just smash your head in, in regards to this idiotic scenario. And no, if both are definitely predators, then the bear is definitely coming for you, just as the man is. You may be able to scare away some little black bears, but try that with a big brown bear, a grizzly or even a polar bear.
Men are more likely to just leave you the fuck alone. That’s the whole reason why this entire scenario is ridiculous and sexist.
Oh totally, but if both are predators, and the bear is already a predator. Then surely that makes the man more likely to attack?
The problem is that this argument isn’t about facts, it’s all about (valid) feelings.
If I agree that factually a bear is more likely to harm you in an encounter. Can you agree that enough men exhibit predatory behaviour towards women that it’s understandable for them to choose bear?
Sure, if you also agree that this type of divisive stuff is just driving already troubled people into the incel corner as well. I could tell you a lot of anecdotes about women and what they do, too. But imagine how I’d get labeled and shunned if I were to apply the behavior of those onto all women, based on their sex or gender. It’s hypocritical and overall just not helpful. Those type of “memes” are ultimately just going to be also responsible for those perceived feelings of a lack of safety around men, and men seeing women as toxic and hateful.
100% agree that the question’s framing is divisive and inflammatory. I also hate the “All Men” garbage, I find the phrase “Enough Men” to be a lot better for getting the point across.
A lot of discourse nowadays seems to ignore that men are people too, and that they have emotions, often emotions that society pressures them not to have. It’s got to be hard repeatedly being told you’re a monster just because of the way you’re born.
There’s this expectation that men should be capable of looking after themselves, but at the same time should just take abuse and deal with it “like a man”.
I think you should be able to criticise women’s behaviour, enough women are shitty in a uniquely woman way that it needs to be open to criticism. I see your point that you’re likely to get shunned or downvoted to oblivion though, assuming you’re not just straight up banned. It’s upsetting that the world is as messed up and awkward as it is
I’ll get downvoted by incels and femcels alike, because I refuse to take either one of their extremistic positions and views. Same happens when the topic is about political extremism and Tankies & Nazis suddenly unite in hating me for not joining one of their sides either. Honestly though, the downvotes and upvotes are all over the place in this thread and whoever posted the rage bait originally definitely succeeded in riling people up.
Same here mate. I wish we could actually have decent calm discussions about these things. The world would be a utopia overnight.
Thank you for the calm discussion, it’s been far more interesting than the other rage threads
Why would you think men are likely to leave women alone when they can’t even do it on a meme they don’t like?
Are you seriously questioning why men are trying to defend themselves against the allegation that they’re all rapists and more dangerous than a bear? What if we make a rage baiting meme that calls all women manipulative cheaters? Do you think women would feel offended, try to refute that statement and call it sexist or not?
No one is saying all men are rapists. Sheesh. I thought women were supposed to be the ones who are overreacting here.
If a man said “I would rather be in the woods with a bear than a woman,” I’d pity him and listen to what he has to say. I wouldn’t make it all about me, personally. Because I don’t have a fragile ego.
If you’re preferring a dangerous predator over a random ass man, then yes, you’re implying exactly that.
Now we’re at men are pitiful and have fragile egos. lol This is all standard femcel lingo. You can do better.