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    Men on Reddit are still salty days later about women choosing to be with a bear rather than a random man in the forest. Even to the point of mansplaining their position and invalidating women’s lived experiences.

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        It’s just weird that not even 5 years after BLM that we’re back to saying that we’d prefer to be with literal animals than be around black men

        The cops that murdered George Floyd probably felt the same way

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          you are the only person who came here with the agenda of trying to spin this as an anti-black issue. you failed spectacularly. this was never a race issue and you knew that coming in.

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            When a sex is demonized and dehumanized, eventually acts of “righteous” violence will ensue.

            And what do you think the race and national origin will be of the majority of those victims?

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            All men have a race and a national origin. When we dehumanize men and say that a vicious animal is safer than them, we are normalizing dehumanization and violence. Which, in the United States, will eventually lead to violence against men who are disproportionately black, brown, Muslim, and foreign born.

            Which is partially why black men are murdered at such high rates - they aren’t seen as “people”, they’re seen as superpredators. And is also why it is easy to turn away refugees at the border - because they’re all soldiers in a migrant caravan coming to kill us. And is why Israel can claim they killed a dangerous Hamas terrorist when, in reality, all they did was murder a 12 year old boy.

            When men are seen as inherently harmful and women are seen as inherently harmless, dehumanization and prejudicial violence occurs. This meme was astroturfed by right wing organizations to help accomplish that goal. We should reject it.

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        Totally, the whole thing is inflammatory hyperbole.

        I get the point that while not all men™, enough men exhibit predatory behaviour to the extent that a decently large percentage of women fear the average man more than the average bear.

        But this is just deliberately sowing division, and more shows how little both sides know about both bear behaviour and crime statistics

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          This is to shock men so they stop and think about why this is the answer. I don’t get how so many people are missing this.

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            Because the answer is inflammatory and the discourse around it is further fanning those flames. The title of the post is “Either ya understand why most women pick the 🐻 or you are the 🐻.” ffs. That deliberately implies that people who don’t already understand the answer are stalkers and rapists, which defaultly puts people on the defensive.

            Men are allowed emotions, and those emotions can cloud judgement. Men aren’t cold calculating machines that automatically have the required knowledge and emotional intelligence to see through this esoteric bear question. Hell, there’s a good chunk of women on side man.

            Making the question so inflammatory is a double edged sword, you reach a larger audience, but you’re way more likely to drive people from your cause

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          enough men exhibit predatory behaviour to the extent that a decently large percentage of women fear the average man more than the average bear.

          Women should fear the average man far more than the average bear because they will almost certainly never encounter the average bear, but will encounter thousands of men.

          That said, the entire argument belies a deep misunderstanding of statistics. Many women, perhaps most women, have experienced trauma at the hands of men. Many men, perhaps most men, have not been perpetrators of that trauma. There is not a 1-1 relationship between victimized women and guilty men - there is a minority of men who negatively affect many women.

          The entire thing has become flamebait and it is impossible to have an actual discussion about it. The point is to start a conversation about how women feel unsafe in society - not to talk about bear attacks and incels.