• Gigan@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I’ve heard some pretty gruesome tales of bear attacks. I think these women are underestimating how bad being mauled by a bear could be.

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      4 months ago

      I’ve heard some pretty gruesome tales of domestic violence. I think these women are underestimating how bad being mauled by a man could be.

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      4 months ago

      It’s not a statement on reality, but a statement on perception. One I agree with as a guy. I don’t really know how to deal with a bear, but if the hypothetical involves any indication of oddness, I think I’d rather risk walking away from a bear than finding out if there’s a crazy looking for their next victim.

      Sure, the person has more positive possible outcomes, but if my intention is to stay alone, why go through the risk? Hell, my antisocial ass would probably start acting weirder to try and scare them!

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        4 months ago

        Apples to oranges unless you want to fill the population with as many bears are there are men and see which one attacks more people.

      • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
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        4 months ago

        Right?! You hear tales of bear attacks because they are so rare, not because they are so frequent. I am a man and I’d still much rather encounter a bear in the woods than another man.

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          4 months ago

          You’re an idiot. I’ve encountered men in the woods and guess what happened? They waved and said hi. If I ever saw a bear in the woods I’d shit my pants.

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        4 months ago

        Are those one out of six women having the same amount of contact with wild bears than they have with men? Otherwise you are just proving that you cannot read statistics, or rather you can but chose to push an agenda - like a predator.

        Thinking that a random man inherently has to be a predator, so you disregard the animal that we know for a fact is a predator, is nothing but irrational. But feel free to prove us all wrong and go try to talk to some bears instead of men and we will see how long it will take for things to go south. I’d say the average number of men you’ve talked to in your lives, good or bad, are a good start to work through for your bear dates. After that we’ll at least have some very rough comparable data to compare.

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        4 months ago

        Those assaults aren’t from strangers is the piece of information omitted, it’s men in their family or inner circle abusing power or taking advantage of trust. The perception that all men are a threat is seriously damaging our youth and in fact creating a larger issue as it radicalizes them into ideologies that don’t value others as a reactionary turn to the way they feel treated.

        This shit is bad and you should feel bad for propagating it.

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        4 months ago

        Not saying you’re wrong, but the conditional probability P(Mauled by bear | encountered bear) is way higher than the total probability P(Mauled by bear), and an argument of this kind should be based on the conditional probability.

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        4 months ago

        You clearly have no idea how to interpret or compare these statistics.

        The average woman will encounter tens of thousands of men each year. The average woman will encounter near-zero bears.