• Dr. Coomer@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Maybe the original was 5.56mm and some dumbass decide “nah, not enough b u l l e t, better make it 5.7mm.”

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        OK, so there is a 5.7mm, that’s the same diameter as 5.56/.223, but it’s not compatible with either because of the french.

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            5 months ago

            Kinda?

            The case is both shorter and narrower than 556/223, so it won’t even sit right in anything not designed for it. But FN makes quite a few guns that use it.

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      5 months ago

      556 was the measure of the inner diameter of the rifling of a barrel of a gun that shot 556.

      It’s confusing. That’s why for most shotguns, we measure the width by the number of spheres of that diameter that would equal one lb, eg a 12 gauge shotgun is the diameter of a 1/12lb sphere of lead.

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        Grains as a measure of weight comes from the Troy weight system, think Troy ounce of gold. It is a very old system that for a long time was mostly used by apothecaries and probably has its origins in Ancient Rome.

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          he’s serious. The old casting method for round shot was to dump a measured amount of molten lead from a tower into a pool of water 40 feet below. the molten lead would form a sphere in free fall and fully set in the water, so it was convenient to define gauge diameter by fractional weight of a pound. Twelfth pound sphere fits a 12 gauge gun, etc.

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              Here’s where it gets political. I learned about shot towers in passing years ago and thought that was a good idea. You learned about shot towers in passing, but then with a detailed explanation, still thought that was ridiculous. One of us is prone to rational thought and the other is not. This is a 17th century conversation happening now.

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                Ah no, it’s just that from reading this, I imagined it being poured outside, not inside the tower.

                Like, someone looking at Galileo doing his experiments dropping weights off Pisa tower, and saying:

                — What if we put a bucket underneath? What a splash it’d make!

                And another one going:

                — Yeah! And why just weights, let’s throw molten lead off! What safety concerns? Haven’t heard any