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    10 months ago

    To the idiot half who voted Brexit: fuck off.

    To the other half who voted against it: sorry guys.

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    Those scheming betrayers also left Australia out of the transport plan for EU members.

    How much lead paint do you need to eat to see the loaded language in these headlines and think “yeah - seems legit.”

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      That’s Switzerland. (not a member of the EU)

      Imagine speaking with such authority whilst simultaneously lacking such a basic understanding of Europe.

      Which 70 cretins upvoted this arse water?

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    As a heathen Yank, I don’t have an actual stake in the whole thing. However, I can’t escape the following, as my considered opinion:

    EU Proponent: “Hey, you know how it’s really easy to govern, fund, and defend nations and empires?”

    Skeptical European: “Ummm…are you joking?”

    EU Proponent: “Well, some of us were thinking.: what if we carve out a nebulous, constantly shifting middle-ground between a single nation, a group of nations, and an empire. Ya know, some kind of cobbled-together, mutated entity, possessing some characteristics of all those things, but never truly being any of them. That might be EVEN EASIER to manage.”

    Skeptical European: “What the…what? Fucking WHAT?”

    EU Proponent: “We figure the most important aspect would be a constant vagueness, regarding the enforcement of laws, standards, and regulations that all the nations in the semi-pseudo-super-nation group would have to follow.”

    Skeptical European: “Come again?”

    EU Proponent: “Well, it’s simple: maybe all the countries in the quasi-ultra-state would be bound to obey laws passed by the mega-parliament. But also, maybe they would still be sovereign states, and they wouldn’t have to obey those laws. But, then again, maybe they ARE supposed to obey them, technically, but there isn’t an effective method of enforcement. If everyone has to keep guessing, that will make sure everyone pays attention, and everything will go really smoothly.”

    Skeptical European: “Ohhhhhkay. But we’ll still bully the shit out of Greece if they have financial problems, right?”

    EU Proponent: “Oh, fuck yes. That’s 90 percent of why we’re even doing this.”

    Skeptical European: “Alright, I’m in.”

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    “Scheming EU states” is a total flame bait headline. The UK is not part of the EU, so why should they be included in any of this? They should be HAPPY about the EU not “meddling” with their “freedom”!

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      Not only that, but there are also two arrows on this map going into the UK. It’s up to the UK to take care of how well these arrows connect to important locations within their borders. There really doesn’t appear to be an issue whatsoever.

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    What’s truly bullshit about this map is Hungary. To get anywhere, you have to go through Budapest and it’s been like this since the last 150 years, when it comes to rail. Even though it has at least seven metropolitan areas outside of Pest county with population above 100k… NOPE! You have to go through two of the three major railway stations of Budapest.

    What’s worse is say you are a local to Hungary and you live east of the Danube. You want to visit Lake Balaton in the west. You have to take the train to Budapest. You then transfer by Metró to the other railway station. And then take another train to the lake. Three fares and two transfers, which might be fine as an individual but adds up in costs and stress if you are with family or have accessibility needs. And by accessibility needs I’m just talking about being elderly (who mostly travel free or at a very reduced rate) or a stroller.

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    I think people in this comment section seem to think people who voted to leave the EU are shaking their fists in rage, why would they be? The diagram also looks sus in terms of legality

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        I found the proposal - I thought the lines to Ireland were all proposed rail (despite encroaching the incorrect distance by sea) but its a rough diagram and those are water transport routes.

        Looms fine to me though, there’s a path into Norway, and there’s a path into the UK.

        What’s the big deal?

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    I get it, and lol or whatever, but Ireland is getting two ferries(?) from entirety of the mainland, and the UK is still connected via the tunnel which looks to be a major link-hub for the new system. I guess if it weren’t for Brexit there might have been an Edinburgh-Amsterdam or -Brussels link, but it’s not like Aberdeen or New Castle was going to get any love.

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      I believe we have two ferries going from east Scotland to Amsterdam and Bruges (or somewhere nearby) starting shortly. We also have Fred Olsen cruises from Scottish ports now too.

      Not defending brexit before I get pitchforked but we aren’t exactly cut off…

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      10 months ago

      I imagine sad, regretful brits dining/vacationing are a boon to the economy.

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    There is this saying ‘people are not islands’ to mean people are interconnected with each other. The literal sense being applied by the last decade and by extension the last semicentennial is weird. The EU is a federation and any country can leave, but I still think Brexit was a mistake.

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      Switzerland is part of the single market, I’d guess they’re paying the EU to be part of TEN-T. The UK is trying to have as little association with the EU as possible.

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      Switzerland participates in Schengen and the european free trade association while not being an EU member state. The UK doesn’t do any of those things.