• neokabuto@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Saved you a click:

    2023’s Global Liveability Index: The top 10

    1. Vienna, Austria
    1. Copenhagen, Denmark
    1. Melbourne, Australia
    1. Sydney, Australia
    1. Vancouver, Canada
    1. Zurich, Switzerland
    1. Calgary, Canada
    1. Geneva, Switzerland
    1. Toronto, Canada
    1. Osaka, Japan
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      Something’s very strange in this ranking.

      Osaka is a nice city but few Japanese would choose it as the no. 1 “livable” city in the nation. For a businessman it’d be much more convenient to live in some neighborhood city around Tokyo. To favor Osaka like that you’d need to mistake your personal preference as a universal measure.

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      1 year ago

      LOL, Australian and Canadian cities? Pretty sure most urbanists would disagree; those are car-dependent shitholes.

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        Maybe it’s not obvious to you, but city design/planning isn’t the only thing that makes a city “livable”. Reading the article may help.

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          It may not be sufficient, but it is necessary as a baseline precondition. Perhaps not all cities with good urbanism are “livable,” but all “livable” cities must have good urbanism.

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      I find it surprising that there’s 2 Australian cities on here but nowhere from the US. I’ve been under the impression Australia was similar to US in “Liveability” metrics, for good and ill.

      The rest are no surprise at all

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        My guess is that all USA cities were disqualified for possibilities of gun violence and lack of socialize medicine. I can’t really disagree with that either.

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        They talk more about the methodology here, for what it’s worth. I think crime is pretty heavily weighted, guessing that’s what sinks a lot of US cities.

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      Seriously shocked to see Vancouver on here, specifically because of that. How is it one of the most livable when so many people can’t begin to afford to live there?

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        Same with Sydney. Rent and real estate is ridiculous in general. Livable if you share with 8 housemates, or have a really good salary

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        Seriously shocked to see Vancouver on here

        Same with Toronto.

        Those 2 are the most expensive places to live in the country.

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        That was my exact thought as well, yes! And I’m 100% certain it’s not the only other very high COL city in the top 10 (Toronto, Zurich, Geneva all come to mind immediately).