When someone says retro game console I think of NES. Maybe SNES. Now that you mention it I can see N64. But no way Gamecube seems retro let alone Wii. They were on discs! Lol
Been coming to terms that I became old lately lol. Weird how it sneaks up on you. You are young, get busy a couple years pass and ok you are a young adult. Then time seems to speed up and before you know it you are exhausted and old living in what was recently the way off future.
I have a theory that what we refer to as retro doesn’t advance by a year every year. In the same way words like “antique” and “vintage” bring about specific time periods and aesthetics, “retro” does as well. I’m just pulling a number out of my ass here, but say it’s like every three years that go by one year is added to what we call retro. That would mean it would take 15 years from the time we begin viewing SNES as retro to view PS1 as retro because they were released five years apart. So, if we say PS1 is retro now, that would mean we began to view SNES as retro in 2009. This sounds right, maybe? It’s hard to put myself back in that time period, but I definitely would’ve called NES games retro in 2009, but SNES it’s harder to say.
This methodology is flawed because of “retro” is tied to an aesthetic or time period then at some point nothing new will ever be considered “retro” and we’d eventually begin using a different term to refer to things from later.
A good example is “oldies” on the Radio. Nothing newer is really entering the group of songs we consider oldies.
In the same way words like “antique” and “vintage” bring about specific time periods and aesthetics, “retro” does as well.
In my opinion, “retro” gaming is a misnomer and “vintage” is more fitting for what people usually mean. Retro is something modern or recent made in an older style. Actual old stuff is “vintage”. So a game like UFO 50 is actual retro gaming; of course the definition gets more fuzzy when you look at ROM hacks that don’t even work on the original hardware of the base ROM. But if you buy an original old console and play the games from back then, that’s not really retro by the original definition.
However, I’m well aware that this ship has sailed
Classic - PS3 / 360
Retro - PS1 / N64,
V I N T A G E - SNES / NES / Genesis
It’s my system to make me feel less old do not judge me
Am I the only millennial that actually feels things that happened more than a decade ago are old?
Like I get it, the ps3 wasn’t before my time, but it’s ancient now given how we just got the ps5 pro.
Yes. You are.
It got even worse when COVID hit. I could have sworn that 2019 was just last year, yet here we are, and the 2020s are almost halfway over. It literally feels like I’m missing an entire decade of my life.
Technology seems to be behind 10 years as well. I mean we’ve had 4K monitors for over a decade now, yet you still need to spend nearly $2000 for a GPU powerful enough to run games at that resolution and a modern refresh rate. Meanwhile back in the 2000s, we went from 480i gaming, to 720p/1080i, to 1080p, all within 5 years. Smartphones from 10 years ago were black slabs running Android or iOS, and today they’re black slabs running Android or iOS. Windows 10 has been around for almost a decade now too. Back in the 90s, we went from Windows 3.1, to Win95, to 98, to Me. Advancements in technology and software come in small, incremental improvements, when not too long ago a new life-changing thing was coming out every 2-3 years. The only tech I’ve noticed keeping up with the times is internet bandwidth. In 20 years I went from dialup to 256kbps to 3Mbps to 15 to 30 to 80 to 500; now I have Gigabit internet and my monthly bill has never been smaller.
I think what you’re noticing is corporate greed. There have been substantial life changing discoveries in the last decade. The problem is that corporate investors can’t find ways to exploit it so they shelve the patents. Another thing that happens is someone holds a patent but can’t or won’t allow someone to use it because the price isn’t right so it sits without any use.
Shit, when I hear retro i think Atari
I just got started working in a retro arcade.
It has a PS4 in it. 💀
That’s overkill.
Released over 11 years ago
But it’s also just the previous console generation and brand new ones were still in stores three years ago.
On that note, perhaps it would make more sense to look at when a console “dies off” than when it first released? In that sense, the PS4 is still a pretty recent console arguably still modern.
Of all the PlayStation consoles to come up with, why the PSX?
Not criticizing, just curious
It’s literally the first one?
Interestingly, it’s technically not. While the PS1 was sometimes called the PSX in development, that name didn’t make it to the production model. There was, however, a PlayStation system that saw production under the PSX name, which was a combination PS2 and DVR. That’s probably the one @JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world is thinking of.
Ah, yeah for some reason I always called the older boxy gray version the PSX, and the slimmer white one the PS1.
The mini one was officially the PS One as the full name of the system. The official abbreviation for the original grey model was the PS or PS1, depending on whether or not Sony had started developing the PS2. Then they just started adding Slim to distinguish the small models and Xbox proudly took up the duty of naming consoles things that are confusing and don’t make any sense.
I’ve just got off of my 360 playing Halo 2. I was playing the level with the tank, Ladies Like Armour Plating. Very fun :)
Ah, the first chapter of Metropolis. One of my favorite sections. That chapter name actually depends on the difficulty setting. On easy and normal it’s ‘Ladies Like Armor Plating’ but on heroic it’s ‘Ladies Like Grinding Treads’ and on legendary it’s ‘Ladies Like Superior Firepower.’ I think it’s the only instance in the franchise of a chapter title changing based on difficulty.
I thought I’d remembered different names for it! I never made that connection though. I did try playing on Legendary this time around but it was too difficult. Halo 2 seems much harder than Reach, which was the last one I completed on Legendary. Maybe I’m just out of practice…
Halo 2 on legendary is absolutely brutal. The jackal snipers will one-shot you almost as soon as they spawn, so you need to memorize the spawn locations and triggers and make sure you have a BR to headshot them before they get into position.
The true retro gaming systems: Tiger Electronic Handhelds.
If it has 3D hardware it ain’t retro.
SNES confirmed not retro.
That was only in the Super FX cartridges wasn’t it? Is mode 7 really 3D, or just rotating and scaling of a single background layer?
Are our modern GPUs just mode 7 run millions of times on a much smaller scale…
The Wii came out in 2009
It is pretty old
No it came out just a few years ago, I was just reading about it in Nintendo power the other day! God Twilight Princess is gonna be so sick when it finally comes out!
Right?
Right guys?!?
lol. It’s Frieren!
Even more lol, in this thread no mention of the elf represented in the pic.
Video games 20 years ago:
Its been 19 years between now and the release of the Xbox 360, while it was 9 years between the releases of the Xbox 360 and Nintendo 64.
I hate math
Why would you say something like that? It’s like you are wanting to hurt us.
I just find it fascinating how spans of time can feel so different
Anything that plays games on discs, including PlayStation, feels recent to me.
No retro means Atari, NES, Super Famicom, Genesis.
