The way I see it if they get defederated a lot of the people will migrate away from it and it won’t be “too big to fail” anymore
The best way to keep them all contained would be to not defederate but encourage everyone on other instances to add it to their instance mute list so you don’t have to interact with them.
Sure you can block them. It’s really easy
Listen. Just fuckin listen to me. The moment I joined lemmy every enthusiast was singing praise to the fediverse and how it’s easy to maintain the freedom of speach and yada yada yada. What it turned out to be is just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that while lemmy still fucking struggles to even become a mere shadow of reddit. I fucking hate reddit, I think spez should be covered in fire ants, but by god, looking at how insufferable most vocal lemmy users are, I may get back to reddit, probably as many other lemmy users already did.
your “boycott” was already happening naturally because (ayk) lemmy.ml’s mods are insufferable
I only follow some .ml communities for the only thing that instance is good for: Memes making fun of neoliberals
lemmy.ml users reaction:
grabs some popcorn
40+ reports in a single comment section… Sorry, but I’m going to lock this.
I like the idea of growing non-ml community, however, I wish larger instances do not block ML. Otherwise, they would just move to lemmy.ee or lemmy.one, just like how they moved from hexbear and grad to ml.
It is great tankies got their own place where they can be happy, and I really don’t want to interact with them. I am emotional about issues they engage in, and emotional me usually is not a nice person.
Social media is one of the few ways I can relax for couple hours per week outside of my job, and I really don’t want my social media experience to go full investigative journalism.
I don’t think the meme makes sense. The ml users don’t seem to care how much other content is out there. They still participate as much as they’d like.
I criticized the CCP on lemmy.ml and got called racist and got banned lmao
China pretending to be egalitarian is like Maga pretending to be pro-freedom.
You know people can see your moderation history right?
I genuinely didn’t. How do you check that? I want to see their excuse for banning me
Scroll all the way to the bottom and click mod log to search. or click the 3 vertical dots to see a specific users mod history.
Not sure if this link will work on any lemmy clients, but open it in the browser (modlog on lemmy.ml and filtered by your user ID):
https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2602275
Edit: I linked ml because I don’t know if modlogs federate over. E.g if lemmy.ml admin mod actions are visible on sh.itjust.works modlog page.
It works on Thunder!
I’m honored to have learned about being banned from ML on this blessed day.
Thank you, I had no idea how to find this, it’s super fascinating
Some of these removals are perfectly warranted, like that L + ratio comment. It was a fun comment, but not productive. I didn’t even know I was banned from 196 for… Defending genocide? Because I didn’t want Trump elected? I would like to congratulate the moderators of blahaj.zone for successfully preventing a Harris presidency.
All the recent .ml stuff is because of “rule 1,” and y’all can plainly see that the comments removed were not bigoted or uncivil
No problem! I just got interested how the modlog actually looks like after seeing this comment chain and decided to finally check it out.
No idea whether that link is only showing the lemmy.ml admins actions on you or do the mod actions federate and show all the actions mods on any instance have taken on you though
I would like to congratulate the moderators of blahaj.zone for successfully preventing a Harris presidency.
The guys who’ve spent the last year telling the democrats “You need to stop the genocide and promote popular left policy if you want to win” are not responsible for the dems loss. The dems are responsible for their own loss for ignoring the obvious advice of “stop doing the thing that made you lose in 2022 and 2016 and 2010 and 2004 and instead do the thing that made you win in 2008 and 2020”
It’s particularly gross to suggest a predominantly trans instance wanted a trump presidency.
One time, drag’s friend accidentally left his fly open in public. Drag wanted to save him the embarassment of having it open, and drag knew exactly what to do to help him.
So drag got up in front of everyone in the bar, shouted that the friend’s fly was open, and shared some dank memes making fun of him.
Drag’s friend claims that nobody from that night respects him anymore and drag is a terrible friend, but that’s nonsense. He’s the one who left his fly open, drag was just helping him avoid embarrassment.
If Drag’s buddy spent 4 years telling drag “Zip up your fly, or you’re going to be thrown out”, and instead drag waves his Dick at everyone at the bar, it’s not Drag’s buddy’s fault. Nor is it the fault of everyone else at the bar for being repelled.
If Drag thinks everyone would have been OK with Drag waving his dick around non-consenting people, and that Drag’s buddy simply convinced everyone this was repellent behavior, that’s even more reason to listen to Drag’s buddy.
This is impressively bad reading comprehension. Drag is the one making fun of the person with their fly open. I can’t even hazard a guess as to how you mixed up the subjects like that
I mean I can’t expect much from a .ml in the first place, but still
I agree that it’s the Democrats’ fault that they lost, but I stand by the assertion that people who would rather not vote at all than vote for the lesser of two evils are partially to blame when the greater of two evils wins.
I didn’t say they wanted a Trump presidency, I said they didn’t want a Harris presidency. I only congratulated them on their efforts to prevent that.
The people saying “Genocide, punishing immigrants, tough-on-crime rhetoric, and complicated, means-tested bullshit decreases your bases turnout” are not at fault for those unpopular policies decreasing turnout. Everyone who failed to publicly criticize the dems so they could maintain the delusion they could win while promising to do the opposite of what the people whose votes they depend on want are far more culpable.
Trans people voted for Harris, overwhelmingly. The problems were with white guys with a weird stick up their ass trying to convince everyone else not to vote to protect us. Good work I guess, you got what you wanted.
Nobody was telling people not to vote Harris, there’s a difference between that and telling the dems that the policies and messaging they adopted from the Republican’s 2016 platform were wildly unpopular and will not win the election.
And if the dems successfully ignore and silence all criticism from the left, they’re going to do the same shit in 2026 and 2028.
Checked both my account on lemm.ee and thelemmy.club, and its mostly clean.
https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=11745158 https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=13547228
It might be an instance thing, I don’t know if all instances make modlogs this transparent.
I’ve been called a racist, a homophobe (???) and worst of all a liberal and a fascist (same thing apparently /s) all because I insisted that China isn’t worth simping for.
What I hate most about tankies is that they are the only true leftists and anybody who disagrees with them is just a poser and a liberal. Especially anarchists.
The thing I hate about tankies is the same thing I hate about fascists, every other living thing on earth shares a common ancestor with them. I propose we exile them from the evolutionary tree, return them to the dirt they truly are so that they may be of some use to all living creatures.
Least genocidal liberal
imagine saying shit like " I propose we exile them from the evolutionary tree" and thinking you’re anti-fascist
But I am an anti fascist, just cause im a bloodthirsty bastard who thinks murder is a borderline panacea doesnt mean I am fascist. Fascism has some very notable ideological elements that do not apply to me. Also when I say want to kill someone unless they are in a position of power I want to beat them physically first so that I may break their beliefs, after all if they stop believing then they arent a fascist now are they.
Just cause you associate bloodthirst and antisocial tendencies with fascists doesnt make it an applicable element to me. Plus I loath authority too much to be an authoritarian, it is traditional amongst my kin to reject even our elders authority.
gee, i’m peeing my pants over here
i called you a fascist because of your borderline eugenicist way of framing it, but you’re also a psychopath too apparently so that’s fun
I was making a darwin award joke, basically just a way of saying I want to commit homicide. Also not psychopathy just a nasty mix of Autism and PTSD.
Tankies essentially have more in common with other fascists than they do other leftists.
I once joined a stalinist discord. 3 weeks later it was a community of trans-Hitlerites who required an ID to join.
Is it 100% accurate to write communism off as fascism hiding under leftist wool? No, not 100% accurate, but it sure saves a hell of a lot of time.
lol you’re still at this after abandoning this thread? The one where you jumped in, whinged about “tankies”, and then ignored nearly everything that I said to you while apologizing for not having the time to respond?
Why are you now here and still whinging rather than back at that thread actually engaging? Why are you doubling down on this nonsense when you couldn’t defend it directly against your targets of insult?
Remember when you resorted to the homophobic remarks I predicted?
For clarity, the thread you are talking about was filled with reasonable discussion that you doubled down on ignoring. The biggest thing people took issue with is your insistence on having a negative opinion towards something you in the same breath admitted you lacked real knowledge of how the PRC works. There’s a difference between having an opinion based on strong investigation, and one made by vibes, something pointed out repeatedly to you.
If somebody so desperately wants me to support the second most powerful empire in the world the burden of proof is on them, not on me.
The burden of proof is on the person making claims. The people in that thread nevertheless gave you plenty of proof countering your claims.
My claim was that tankies exist. Which you’re proving true once again.
Go watch CGTN, aka the only “proof” supplied.
I provided much more than CGTN, and that was with respect to legal structures alone. Everyone else provided plenty of evidence as well. You provided very little and doubled down on anti-China myths.
Won’t somebody think of the poor nation state empire? :(
The only burden I’ve ever placed on you is to be self-consistent and not use homophobic insults.
And I don’t need your support for China. You are largely indistinguishable from other liberals that think they are anarchist for some unclear reason, having done no work to shed the liberal propaganda against the US state’s designated enemies. And now that you are over here having clearly done no reflection or self-criticism regarding your misconceptions and bad faith behavior, why do you think anyone should spend time trying to educate you?
If you don’t need my support why are you badgering me here??? I never asked to be “educated” if that’s what you call your sleuth of abusr. Leave me alone, you’re blocked.
I am correcting your false claims and am getting amused by the fact that you abandoned any pretense of reading or responding to explanations in the previous thread, even making excuses for not having the time to do so, even though now that you clearly do have time you are using it to instead double down on your misconceptions while still lashing out at “the tankies” (me).
You lobbed insults and denigration and now plead victimhood when receiving mild criticism of your claims and behavior.
I criticized the CCP on lemmy.ml and got called racist and got banned lmao
Typical conservative sjw user /s
Banned starman2112 @sh.itjust.works from the community 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone reason: Weirdo who defends genocide, because only young people are aginast it
Thanks for the link and the laugh! 😂
It’s amusing to see the average user criticizing .ml while ignoring the bad behavior of others. LMAO!
Weirdo, why im not surprised at all 😂
Seems like whataboutism. Stay on topic.
Haha I also like reason: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/#1-attacks-on-users-or-groups doxing is not ok on lemmy.world
The thread is them saying they would punch nazis
Hey, uhm, I know you’re gonna react negatively to this, but could you answer me one simple yes or no question?
Are you pro-Russian?
And I’m of course against Russia but against Israel too you see
Explicitly mentioning it, despite already saying you support Ukraine. I like it. Thanks.
I should not explain my opinions/positions regarding this,
As a trans person, i cant be on the putin’s side you see ;)But, i hate to see things like “kill the russians” etc,
Do we accept “kill jews/israelien” ? No, and in good reason,
Why should we accept then the “kill all russians” etc ?
We have so much in common! I wish we had elected someone who wouldn’t simultaneously give Ukraine over to Russia, and ensure the total annihilation of the Palestinian people, and remove all access to gender affirming care for trans people in the country I live in.
But I guess the fact that I thought we should vote for the person who would kill fewer people means I support genocide, at least according to the 196 mod team
Nope,
I’m on the side of Ukrainian if you want to know 😑😐Good, good, just checking.
Thanks for posting that, I had no idea. Yikes. Time to find a new instance.
The Winnie the Pooh stuff is just completely made up by Western propaganda. Also, how hard is “yellow face is racist”, when saying an Asian looks like a cartoon with yellow skin?
Nah we’re fine
Regardless of the criticism specifics, a visible mod/admin is a bad mod/admin. True leadership follows; the steering, imperceptible. The job is that of a janitor. People can appreciate a janitor. When a janitor tries to play president, hate follows.
I haven’t seen the specifics in this instance. I saw someone posting partial private messages in screen shots months ago without full context and making drama. I have not seen inexcusable behavior from .ml or a reason I feel motivated to stop posting there.
inexcusable behavior from .ml
Go post the most reasonable fact-based take that’s still anti-china or anti-russia you can over there and it’ll be clear real quick
I post criticisms of Russia and China quite frequently, the critical part of “critical support” doesn’t mean critical like “it’s a critical attack!”.
With Russia though, literally the only context where the guys who destroyed the USSR and caused the greatest non-war-related drop in human life expectancy, increase in suicide, increase in child mortality, increase in alcoholism, etc in the 20th century are a better alternative is in the context of opposing western hegemony.
Like you’re not going to see a ml say anything nice about Russia, only that it’s less evil than the west.
You keep trotting out this same line.
What facts do you need to us to know, that are beyond challenge ?
That’s just the more prominent example, what others would you like?
How about the .ml admin who told a user to kill themselves and is still an admin? Or how about the general toxicity of their users towards Lemmy newcomers? Or the BlueMaGA crap? Or how about likening Harris to fascism when there was a literal textbook fascist, Trump, on the ticket
Do you have the source for the first one?
Lemmy.ml ist BSW als Instanz. Faschisten die die Farbe Rot mögen.
Ja. Ich brauche aber gute Begründungen für eine potenzielle deföderation. Wenn es stimmt, was der Nutzer gesagt hat, wäre es ein Gutes.
The problem you’ve got, is the reverse is also equally true, if not more so.
How I interact with lemmy.ml:
- If I see a post I want to comment on, I comment on it. I don’t give a fuck what instance it’s on.
- If I want to post, I select the relevant community with the most subscribers. I don’t give a fuck what instance it’s on.
- If I can’t comment or post there, because I was banned for criticizing a dictatorship, I select the next biggest community.
(This happens about 50% of the time, cause I’m now banned on most .ml communities, simply for posting common sense opinions.)
Can’t? I already personally blocked them months ago.
