Help an overworked guy with no time to research out - where’s Safari sit in all this
Chrome branched off of Webkit, the core of Safari. Certain parts are distantly related, but the browsers are managed and developed separately. Most chrome forks are much closer to the original project and don’t do significant on the browser, just maintain some small patches and customize the branding.
download Librewolf
Look inside
It’s Firefox but with good defaults and configs
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> downloads desktop app
> looks inside
> it’s a webpage with a dedicated browser
(Web 2.0 and it’s consequences…)
Why even make a desktop app at this point? I get doing that if it has some inherent advantage over the web version, but why go through the trouble of making another program if it’s just gonna be the same but in electron?
A few advantages.
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You can make app specific notifications.
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You can stop worrying about security since you just lock the electron version
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The user thinks it is an actual app and that this is better.
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Think of all that lovely data and tracking you can slurp up when unconstrained by the browser sandbox.
Example with Discord (a website and an electron app): You have to download the desktop app to have stuff like: game activity (show others what game you are playing), global hotkeys for stuff like muting microphone, local Krisp noise cancellation
Why I dislike web apps. They make the devs lazy enough to not bother making a native app
is there a way to force dark mode like in chromium? #enable-force-dark has been a life saver for me. I have a TBI and white screens are physically painful. I keep trying to go back to FireFox, but none of the darkmode addons seem to have this kind of always on, no exceptions kind of feature
i have the same issue you have, bright screens are the worst (i hated visiting wikipedia). try this addon in firefox. instead of messing with the colors and the contrast of the page, it rather puts an dark overlay over the entire page, reducing the brightness and preserving the look.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dark-mode-screen/
well see now I am in a pickle. Do I go to the webpage that does not allow itself to be accessible and lose a day of my life to drugs and bed. or just keep using what I am using.
Dark Reader can do this, though it requires a little bit of tinkering. First you need to tick “Enable on restricted pages” in the Advanced section of Dark Readers settings (in the old design the settings can be found under “More > All Settings”). Then in about:config, all entries in
extensions.webextensions.restrictedDomainsneed to be removed andprivacy.resistFingerprinting.block_mozAddonManagerneeds to be set to “true”. If some of this doesn’t work, there’s also a GitHub Discussion with different solutions, but what I wrote here should do the trick.So, you haven’t used the “Dark Reader” extension on Firefox. It has “automatic”, “scheduled”, “system default” options. Also you can disable or enable dark mode for specific websites.
I don’t need the ability to disable I need it to be always on no matter what. This is exactly the extention I was complaining about. This one doesnt work on extentions.firefox.org
There are no addons at all that can change the look of the firefox extension page; it is protected by the browser.
That is why I can’t use firefox it is not accessible. My disability is not taken seriously by the Mozilla Foundation.
Try This one: https://github.com/ThomazPom/Moz-Ext-UltimaDark
same problem
It work for me on every website.
If you’re not a fan of Firefox right now, with the few odd decisions they’ve been making, try Floorp or Zen. They’re quite good forks of Firefox and don’t seem to have any of the recent Firefox oddness in them.
I shall not stoop so low as to using a browser named ““floorp””.
Chrome is a stupid name too. Edge is a stupid name.
why floorp??
Not even an option.
What, because of the stupid name?
Qutebrowser and (maybe, haven’t tried) Falkon can use qtwebkit as a backend
luakit, surf, otter, epiphany, badwolf, vimb use gtkwebkit
lynx, links, elinks, w3m, netsurf use their own browser engines
there’s also 😒 f*refox 😒 and its forks, if you need cancer like css, js, webrtc, or wasm
cancer like css and js
what kind of websites are you visiting that don’t use either of those?
Likely some old web tier stuff…
I can understand the objections to wasm and even JS, but CSS? c’mon bro…
Well… I know it’s chromium, but I have to admit Vivaldi is easily my favorite browser. It’s got a bunch of fairly unique features that I just can’t live without. It’s got tabs within tabs, tab tiling, a whole side car for websites that you can display while working on whatever Web page you need (works great for social media, music, messaging). I don’t have a link, but maybe worth checking it out.
tabs within tabs
I use the Firefox “Tab Groups” Extension to get a similar result and I have to agree, it is so nice to keep order
I prefer the Firefox “Tab Groups” Feature actually because I feel it’s more comfortable / has a more clear separation AND:
It automatically freezes tabs and integrates with containers (kind of like browser profiles on Chromium but in the same Window)
“guys ios is bad try android”
looks inside android: its literally bad
“guys try this fork of android”
looks inside: it’s better, i guess.
technology fucking sucks, remember when you could just buy software and that shit worked? Yeah me neither i use linux shits free over here.
thorium/vivaldi and firefox are cool
Vivaldi is chromium
Yep
I haven’t checked out Vivaldi in a long time due to the distaste of what happened to Opera and I did not see any of Opera in Vivaldi. Has Vivaldi captured the magic that was Opera 12.04 yet?
I don’t know what are you looking for but it is stylish.
vivaldi is nice feature packed and pretty fast
Ugh just looked. It’s still chromium
proprietary, btw
Then mercury same dev as throium but it uses Firefox 123 (did not personally try it tho)
Firefox/Librefix, Vivaldi, Floorp
So Firefox, Chromium, or closed-source components…
Mozilla Corp’s Gecko Engine has allowed several non-corporate flavored browsers into existence, such as various forks on their github or Waterfox.
Then if you dont mind slow speeds you can try Tor Browser.
Firefox and Forks, or perish.
I want to get more points in speedometer 3 using firefox. I’ve seen results above 20-24, but I can’t get more than 12 because js takes a long time to process. What to do? Rebuild firefox with the -0fast flag??
Any suggestions are welcome
I still prefer FF or Vivaldi over Google Chrome. Yes Vivaldi is Open Source Chromium, but at least it doesn’t have the Chrome crap in it.
Vivaldi contains Chromium, but it isn’t itself open-source, by the way.
They say of themselves that “for all practical purposes the Vivaldi source code is available for audit”. I would not fully agree with that either, but I guess, at that point the open-source purists have already lost interest anyways.
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-source/
It’s still the same rendering engine. There are two browsers.
3 if you count Safari
That’s like saying there’s only 5 games because they use the same game engine
You can’t compare games to browsers tho
I’m not comparing them, it’s an analogy
I tried Vivaldi, it’s a good browser but I prefer Brave because it has build it Tor. In my country most torrent sites are blocked so a built-in Tor is useful to me, it can open those sites without VPN.
Brave is also a shifty shady browser that has problems with inserting affiliate links without telling you and selling off user data. They’re really not better or remotely trustworthy TBH, you might as well use the actual TOR browser built on Firefox if you need that capability.
Yeah, I don’t understand how Brave became acceptable all of the sudden.
Did they do some big marketing campaign in the US or something?
They definitely did some marketing, because it came out of nowhere. When I first installed it, it was all over the internet, from YouTube to webpages. A similar thing you can notice with the Arc Browser. I couldn’t find any exceptional features on the Arc Browser but the hype is encouraging people to try it.
Yup, work in a call center and it was a huge ramp up all of a sudden with elderly clients on brave and asking why our site stopped working…
Also the android app is crap and keeps crashing, and their ad blocker is mich inferior to the glory of ublock origin
Is there a mobile Vivaldi counterpart? It doesn’t make sense for me that I can’t share history with desktop and mobile together
There is, but on iPhone at least it sucks. I love Vivaldi on desktop - every time I try something else I quickly give up. But on mobile I can’t endorse it at the moment.
Perhaps it’s better on Android though, I don’t know.
Oh I remember now, it doesn’t support extensions
Yeah, I use FF mobile for that reason but mostly Vivaldi on desktop
But what about mobile? I started using FF and I have to admit that Chrome is a better mobile experience. Brave isn’t for me either.
Chrome doesn’t support browser extensions so it is an awful experience for me
Same, curious what issues they have in FF, I only know of a couple sites that don’t work right in FF mobile
I still use ff android, but it seriously annoys me that this bug hasn’t been fixed in 6 years https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1535985
I hadn’t noticed this and it will now silently bug me.
Thanks, I hate it!
Lol I didn’t notice it either but don’t miss it either, often the suggestions were more annoying then anything else, imo
The Reddit hive mind behaviour is seeping through the cracks.
For me personally, the experience is allowed to take a hit, hell even a major hit, if the browser respects me as a user. FF seems to be better on that front although I’ll confess I use Vanadium on my phone. Its GrapheneOS’ default browser.
“Everyone that doesn’t share my specific preferences is a sheep (╯° □°） ╯”
Firefox has ad blockers on mobile.
That immediately makes the mobile web useable again.
FF mobile is slow
Running speedometer 3.0 gives me 7.68 for FF and 10.4 for Chrome.
That’s not an enormous difference and in real life usage the ads and cookie banner bullshit I can’t block more than makes up for it.
Welcome to Lemmy where having an opinion even slightly different from the open source/Linux fanboys grants you downvotes to oblivion, no questions asked 🙃
Thanks for putting yourself on the pyre to prove a point. Hivemind is worse here than Reddit imo, because at least Reddit has a diverse user base…
Yup, I totally agree. I’ve been in this situation a few times where I just asked a question because I wanted to know people’s opinion about something privacy or FOSS related, and got downvoted.
I have an IRL friend who went back to Reddit in large parts because of stuff like this. It’s pretty bad.
And I say all this as an open source developer
Mull is great on Android.
