• tyler@programming.dev
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    Anyone who said otherwise got downvoted to hell and deleted their comments because it was clear the bot haters are so fervent they do not care about facts, they just want to yell about hating something.

    And the mods aren’t the ones that implemented the bot. It was the admins, so no shit the mods couldn’t do anything about it.

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      Maybe a bunch of people just don’t like a bot being pushed that tells people what to think.

      Still waiting for Rooki to see reason.

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      A slight follow-up: the mod log on Lemmy is public, and I can’t find much evidence to corroborate your claim that all of the supporting comments were self-deleted. Can you back up the claim you made?

      Not to mention that anyone who is so worried about imaginary federated internet points to the point of deleting unpopular statements is a fuckin’ loser that isn’t worth listening to…

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        Self deletions don’t appear in the mod log. Only moderator actions. That’s why it’s called the mod log.

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      I don’t hate bots, I don’t even hate the I feel strongly about that bot specifically because it spreads misinformation. Claiming that an arbitrary bias rating can in any way be considered a fact is going out on a limb, to put it mildly. I don’t hate bots, I don’t hate facts, and I don’t like yelling. Frankly it’s been pretty tiring to try and stay constructive whilst voicing concerns about something I am passionate about.

      Instead of accusing everyone you disagree with of being a hater and wanting to yell at things, maybe we could engage honestly with the issue instead.

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        Not a single person in this thread has provided a single shred of proof for the “misinformation” claim, so forgive me if I don’t believe your very first sentence. It’s just a bunch of people spouting nonsense and not backing it up with anything. If you provide even a single link (first hand source, not a lemmy comment) supporting your argument that it’s misinformation then I will gladly have a conversation with you about how bias ratings can be accurately created.

        I said everyone is a hater because I did try to converse honestly earlier in the thread and people refused to provide any sort of proof of misinformation, literally going so far as to say I should just “google it”. Sorry it’s not on me to provide proof for others claims.

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          Claiming that everyone who disagrees with you is a hater is inherently dishonest. I’m not trying to defend every single person who might have downvoted you, only providing you a counter example to hopefully get you to challenge your assumption.

          I can give you an example of what I would consider misinformation from MBFC itself in their bias rating of the BBC. It’s misinformation in my view because this particular example exposed the arbitrary and contentious nature of their bias ratings which they present as though they have some kind of rigour behind it. That is simply not the case. For what it’s worth I provided a discussion on this particular topic which I won’t repeat here but hopefully you can see why I would say it spreads misinformation.

          Again, not trying to defend every single person who’s been in this discussion, but your dismissal of criticism because everyone is just a hater is not justified, because there are plenty of people raising well thought out and genuine concerns.

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            Claiming that everyone who disagrees with you is a hater is inherently dishonest.

            I did not claim that. I said that anyone who provided an alternative opinion got downvoted by haters who are so fervent they do not care about facts. Disagreements are not downvotes.

            I’m not trying to defend every single person who might have downvoted you, only providing you a counter example to hopefully get you to challenge your assumption.

            I’m not even talking about myself. That was one of the first comments I made in the thread. I was talking about others who got downvoted for literally saying they like the bot. It had nothing to do with disagreement.

            I can give you an example of what I would consider misinformation from MBFC itself in their bias rating of the BBC. It’s misinformation in my view because this particular example exposed the arbitrary and contentious nature of their bias ratings which they present as though they have some kind of rigour behind it. That is simply not the case. For what it’s worth I provided a discussion on this particular topic which I won’t repeat here but hopefully you can see why I would say it spreads misinformation.

            Can you go more into what you think is arbitrary and contentious in that rating? As it is, what I see is that they have provided very detailed reasons for their ratings, backed up with sources and statistics, and then provided a multi-faceted rating to cover each part of that.

            Again, not trying to defend every single person who’s been in this discussion, but your dismissal of criticism because everyone is just a hater is not justified, because there are plenty of people raising well thought out and genuine concerns.

            you’re the first I’ve seen that actually has commented anything even slightly reasonable.