So. I have 2 I hate.

I had this old gamesube one for the switch. It was a wired one by powerA. Buttons would get jammed, accidentally broke the stick by leaving it in a bad position overnight (my bad) the cover of the cstick randomly slid off (had to glue it) and the while thing was hollow.

Also, I have a keapster explorer and the dpad is awful. Sometimes it jams to the left but its just a plain bad dpad, no physical feedback at all

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    Hot take: Nintendo Switch Joycons. They’re a nice and clever concept but in reality they’re bad.

    Too small even for casual games. The Wiimote was much better at it.

    Very expensive at 80 € per set. Yes, you get two of them but in most games outside of Mario Kart you also need both. And even then they’re fine at best.

    4 out of 4 of my controllers got stick drift. Nintendo had to be sued into repairing them.

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      Single joycon is barely usable, but the Wiimote was terrible for sideways holding.

      Its shape was clearly never intended for it, and the d-pad was absolutely awful, one of the worst I’ve used.

      The d-pad worked as buttons (which was how most games used it, in vertical mode), but for movement it was very stiff and almost impossible to get diagonals. For a console that featured virtual console heavily and needed a lot of classic controls, that was very bad design.

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      I hate the Joycons so much. The clicky buttons are terrible, the split dpad sucks for games that use it for movement, the sticks aren’t great either for precision (ignoring the drift issues), and I find them painful to hold.

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      On the other hand, you can play with your hands in completely different locations which is nice for being lazy on a couch.

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        My reasonably sized, more ergonomic, multi-system wireless controller with hall effect sticks does that for a little more than half the price.

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            It’s a conventional GameSir controller that has a Switch mode among others. The split design of the Joycons rarely plays out, most of the time it makes the controllers unnecessarily complex and thus expensive IMHO.

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                You mean both hands have to grip one controller opposed to having a Joycon in each hand? That split-design can be an advantage, but IMHO doesn’t cancel out the shortcomings of the Joycons. I find them still too small and not grippy at all.

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                  Here’s the comment chain as a reminder.

                  OP:

                  On the other hand, you can play with your hands in completely different locations which is nice for being lazy on a couch.

                  You literally replied:

                  My reasonably sized, more ergonomic, multi-system wireless controller with hall effect sticks does that for a little more than half the price.

                  So can you play with your hands in completely different locations with your “conventional GameSir controller” or not?

                  If not, why did you say that you could?

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        All the cool kids hate Joycons.

        Seriously though, I replaced them immediately and never took them out of the drawer again.

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      Those were terrible!

      Nowadays for me it’s anything that doesnt have “horns” to grip or not enough space between them.

      I stil main 360 controllers though i find them a tad too small/cramped

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        This drives me nuts on the Switch on handheld. The Joycons have no natural “grip”, so it’s hand cramp city unless you invest in a grip case. Was it so hard to give the Joycons an ergonomic shape?

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    Switch controller hands down— the drift is annoying, but the worst is when half your controller just disconnects

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    Back in the early 90s, here in the UK, a company called Cheetah produced licensed joysticks based on Batman, Terminator, Alien³ and The Simpsons. They looked great but they were terrible to use, especially the Alien³ model which I really liked but was incredibly uncomfortable. I never bought one, just tried then on the shops, awful things.

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      There were some cheap ass weird ones in North America too. I remember for Christmas we’d ask for a Joycon or something like that, and we’d get “the Joycron,” which looked nothing like a controller, had a weird shape, felt like shit and was cheap as hell. The old man would be like, arrrr we saw it at the BiWay and it was 99 cents, why do you need the one thats $60? Then he would play it, and sure enough, by February you had the real one.

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    The original Xbox controller for the North American release. I swear it was made for Paul Bunyan it was fucking massive.

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      I agree. That thing was HUGE. I have tiny hands too, and always struggled with it.

      I also didn’t really like the N64 controller, it was kind of a weird size too, and it just had a weird layout.

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    Official Microsoft controllers were absolute peak with the Xbox 360…

    …but modern Microsoft Xbox controllers have absolute dogshit build quality. Just the worst, constantly breaking for no reason. I’m just done with Xbox controllers because old DualShock 4’s are cheap and quality.

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      Back in the day, I bought the official Xbox360 steering wheel. It made me laugh because it was called wireless. It was only wireless between itself and the Xbox. It still needed a power brick to drive the motor and another wire to connect it to the pedals.

      When I sold it, I almost made my money back because it was in high demand. MS had replaced it with that awful U shaped steering wheel that you held in the air like a Wii controller. It used sensors to tell when it was tilted. I never used one but the reviews weren’t favourable as I remember.

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    Aside from broken controllers, which I don’t think can reasonably count, the Atari 2600 joystick.

    One button, a lot of resistance to push on the stick.

    After that, an elderly Logitech gamepad from the 1990s that had a D-pad that rolled diagonal way too easily. IIRC it had a screw-in mini-joystick that could attach to the center of the D-pad. Don’t remember the model. White case, attached directly to a joystick/MIDI port.

    After that, I think the NES controller. I have no idea why people like those or actually buy recreations. Yes, nostalgia, but the ergonomics on it were terrible. Hard buttons, sharper corners on the D-pad than is the norm today, and a squared-off controller made the thing downright uncomfortable to use for long periods of time.

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      The Atari 2600 joysticks were a blight. The base was so small and the stick so unresponsive I remember having to hold the base steady with my feet to use that accursed controller. The breakout dial controller was pretty sweet tho.

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      Ironically, the Atari -like joystick from the 2000’s from Walmart for $15 that plugs directly into your TV with games stored in the joystick is a better joysticks than the original 2600 joysticks.

      However, I would contend that the Intellivision controller was worse.

      I had a Colecovision (and Vic 20), and although I will say that was better than the 2600 and Intellivision joystick, I have to emphasize to all these youngsters complaining about the original NES controllers that those were still an improvement over previous default joysticks.

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    Any gamepad without vibration feels lifeless to me. This was one of the first gamepads I bought for PC, the Thrustmaster Dual Analog 4. No vibration, L3/R3 require a lot of force to press, no analog movement on the triggers. I guess what you get is what you pay for but man I don’t wanna go back to cheapo controllers…

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    N64, and this is the one I actually grew up with. They took a chance, they fucked up by making an alien spaceship three-pronged dildoesque monstrosity, that wore out at mach speed - especially by normal gameplay in certain (coughMarioParty1cough) games. While I have tons of love and nostalgia for N64 and several games on it, it can’t excuse the controller itself.

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    Xbox Series X/S.

    It isn’t even particularly bad by itself, but compared to its predesessors (Xbox One and Xbox 360) the Xbox Series X/S gamepad is a clear step back when it comest to build quality (just try pressing the D-Pad buttons without thinking “this is cheaply made”), and that comparison is what makes me hate it.

    And what adds insult to injury is that the quite expensive Elite version of the controller is just as cheaply built as the regular model…

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      Oh lol. For the price of an elite you could get several 8bitdos or a used switch lol. 179 for a non custom controller is insane

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        I think the elite offers a lot for that price. Swappable sticks and back paddles, trigger stops, multiple profiles, adjustable tension, etc. It’s basically an OEM “custom” controller.

        That being said, I like other controllers better than my elite.

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    I switched from Xbox 360 controllers to PS5 controllers (on pc). They weigh at least twice as much and the battery maybe lasts 4 hours if you’re lucky.