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      They’re part of the “If I’m doing nothing then I’m part of the problem” crowd.

      Otherwise known as “moralizing busybodies”

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                those of herbivores are hands or hooves

                And then it just completely goes downhill from here… Show me a single fucking herbivore that has hands. 👎

                Also you realize it’s possible that creatures can evolve into omnivores from prolong environmental pressure, right? Are you not familiar with evolution? Did you sleep through life science?

                Also, you realize that from that same exact source there are thousands of papers and studies contradicting that paper. You might as well become a farmer with how well you pick cherries.

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                  Show me a single fucking herbivore that has hands.

                  I mean pandas and gorillas have already been mentioned. Koalas. A quick search turns up tons of new and old world monkeys. So I guess lots of fucking herbivores have hands. 👍

                  Also you realize it’s possible that creatures can evolve into omnivores from prolong environmental pressure, right?

                  I mean, of course. Would you be willing to concede that herbivorous traits could be selected for over time due to the same factors?

                  You might as well become a farmer with how well you pick cherries.

                  That was a pretty sick burn, ngl!

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                    Gorillas are omnivores.
                    Pandas are ex-carnivores who’ve transitioned to a specialized herbivore diet over millions of years of evolution do to environment factors. Additionally, you realize bamboo has a shit ton of protein and carbohydrate in a ratio similar to a hypercarnivores diet, right? That’s how they were able to transition in the first place, Pandas digestive system and gut microbiome still resemble carnivores, they’re not typical herbivores.
                    And PANDAS DO NOT HAVE HANDS, not a single fucking species of bear has hands. Just because they have a pseudo-thumb doesn’t mean that it’s an actual fucking thumb, they have specialized paws to grip and eat bamboo, not hands.

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                That paper is making some absolutely ridiculously unscientific comparisons, and immediately ignores the existence of omnivores after flatly stating that most people eat an obvious diet. It’s absolute trash.

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                  I do concede there’s better sources to be found than the one I’ve provided. However I’m not convinced the effort would be worthwhile when everyone hates you just for questioning societal norms such as the mass incarceration and slaughter of sentient beings. The information is out there, personally I think I’m done with the abusive, downright mean DMs and replies. I tried good faith arguments, humor, matching energy, I realize it’s frivolous. People believe what they want to believe and feel attacked when you tell them different. Adam Conover taught me that and I’ll always hate him for it.

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          Did you try just hitting downvote again? 😅

          So, I didn’t see OPs username. I heretofore concede that someone did mention it. I hope in time we can both take what we learned from this experience and incorporate it into our respective journeys. More importantly I hope this hasn’t permanently damaged our relationship. I’d hate to lose what we had.

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            I’m sorry, my reply is inflammatory garbage? Not the person calling out vegans in a comment under a meme? Yeah, okay.

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          Here, take mine since I’m not attracted to my dad. 🤣 (I applied it for you to the other guy… Maybe I am attracted to my dead dad- I do eat meat and that’s obscene according to these vegans)