• Liz@midwest.social
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      That paper is making some absolutely ridiculously unscientific comparisons, and immediately ignores the existence of omnivores after flatly stating that most people eat an obvious diet. It’s absolute trash.

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        I do concede there’s better sources to be found than the one I’ve provided. However I’m not convinced the effort would be worthwhile when everyone hates you just for questioning societal norms such as the mass incarceration and slaughter of sentient beings. The information is out there, personally I think I’m done with the abusive, downright mean DMs and replies. I tried good faith arguments, humor, matching energy, I realize it’s frivolous. People believe what they want to believe and feel attacked when you tell them different. Adam Conover taught me that and I’ll always hate him for it.

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      2 months ago

      those of herbivores are hands or hooves

      And then it just completely goes downhill from here… Show me a single fucking herbivore that has hands. 👎

      Also you realize it’s possible that creatures can evolve into omnivores from prolong environmental pressure, right? Are you not familiar with evolution? Did you sleep through life science?

      Also, you realize that from that same exact source there are thousands of papers and studies contradicting that paper. You might as well become a farmer with how well you pick cherries.

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        Show me a single fucking herbivore that has hands.

        I mean pandas and gorillas have already been mentioned. Koalas. A quick search turns up tons of new and old world monkeys. So I guess lots of fucking herbivores have hands. 👍

        Also you realize it’s possible that creatures can evolve into omnivores from prolong environmental pressure, right?

        I mean, of course. Would you be willing to concede that herbivorous traits could be selected for over time due to the same factors?

        You might as well become a farmer with how well you pick cherries.

        That was a pretty sick burn, ngl!

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          Gorillas are omnivores.
          Pandas are ex-carnivores who’ve transitioned to a specialized herbivore diet over millions of years of evolution do to environment factors. Additionally, you realize bamboo has a shit ton of protein and carbohydrate in a ratio similar to a hypercarnivores diet, right? That’s how they were able to transition in the first place, Pandas digestive system and gut microbiome still resemble carnivores, they’re not typical herbivores.
          And PANDAS DO NOT HAVE HANDS, not a single fucking species of bear has hands. Just because they have a pseudo-thumb doesn’t mean that it’s an actual fucking thumb, they have specialized paws to grip and eat bamboo, not hands.

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            Well aren’t you just a big ol’ bucket of sunshine.

            Gorillas are omnivores.

            No. They are preferential herbivores.

            Pandas are ex-carnivores who’ve transitioned to a specialized herbivore diet over millions of years blah blah blah

            Okay?

            Additionally, you realize bamboo has a shit ton of protein and carbohydrate

            I do. Do you realize you’re contradicting yourself left and right?

            Pandas digestive system and gut microbiome still resemble carnivores, they’re not typical herbivores.

            They still have bear intestines yes, but their microbiota is actually highly specialized. Nature sure is amazing.

            And PANDAS DO NOT HAVE HANDS, […], they have specialized paws to grip and eat bamboo, not hands.

            Now you’re just being pedantic. And loud. Give the guy some credit, he’s holding the hell out of that bamboo.

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              Go tell Pandas to stop occasionally & opportunistically snacking on small animals. You seem to love pushing your veganism, so why don’t you go do that to the pandas?
              Not a single thing I said was contradictory.
              I’m thoroughly convinced you slept through life science.