My husband calls in the middle of this and I told him I usually don’t see these sort of shit takes here and then I remember I’d been browsing ALL, for crying out loud. Go to see what fucking community it was… and it’s memes! My bad even commenting here probably, but complaining that memes don’t adequately capture the whole picture and may not be the best way to address the issue seems a little… I dunno but something - here in the literal meme community.
Y’all ain’t being thrown under the bus. My husband gets it. He is also an ally to women. But y’all ain’t there “standing up in solidarity with women” when we are being molested, raped, or murdered. These things happen to women ALL THE GODDAMNED TIME. You weren’t there in solidarity with me any of the times when I was actually harmed, but when I have something to say about how scary men can actually be, you are here to stand against me. Or at best, get me to think of your feelings instead of my own safety.
I would also prefer guys who are not rapists to stand up in solidarity with women against the rapists, instead of being thrown under the bus with the rest of the women that make men feel uncomfortable by reminding them of the things that actually happen in women’s lives.
The issue here is the way the message is delivered. We as a society need to bring attention to the issue of safety for women and sexual assault overall and try to find solutions for it. I think there are examples of great ways to do that (bring attention to it I mean, no clue how to fix it), one that comes to mind is the whole movement that I think was called #metoo or something along those lines? I think it brought a lot of attention to this and it allowed me personally to understand better the depth of the issue of safety for women. It made me more aware, it made me reconsider many things and made me want to be helpful.
Today there was another post around where it was asked of women “if all men disappear for 24 hours without consequences, what would you do in that time”. So many many answers were just “go party with my girlfriends and dress however I want and get hammered without feeling threatened” or something similar, and that post alone made the issue of safety for women so much clearer and stand out so perfectly than this meme, and more importantly the original question…
The problem is that this kind of discussion creates a barrier, it divides, it moves the discussion from the real issue, women’s safety, to a wrong topic, are men as dangerous as a bear. In itself it’s a question that promotes another type of sexism, it promotes fear, with the excuse of making a point and raising awareness. Instead of raising awareness it’s muddling the waters in reality which is not the way anyone will be feeling safer in any way.
My husband calls in the middle of this and I told him I usually don’t see these sort of shit takes here and then I remember I’d been browsing ALL, for crying out loud. Go to see what fucking community it was… and it’s memes! My bad even commenting here probably, but complaining that memes don’t adequately capture the whole picture and may not be the best way to address the issue seems a little… I dunno but something - here in the literal meme community.
Y’all ain’t being thrown under the bus. My husband gets it. He is also an ally to women. But y’all ain’t there “standing up in solidarity with women” when we are being molested, raped, or murdered. These things happen to women ALL THE GODDAMNED TIME. You weren’t there in solidarity with me any of the times when I was actually harmed, but when I have something to say about how scary men can actually be, you are here to stand against me. Or at best, get me to think of your feelings instead of my own safety.
I would also prefer guys who are not rapists to stand up in solidarity with women against the rapists, instead of being thrown under the bus with the rest of the women that make men feel uncomfortable by reminding them of the things that actually happen in women’s lives.
#NotAllMen
#ButWeDontKnowWhichOnes
The issue here is the way the message is delivered. We as a society need to bring attention to the issue of safety for women and sexual assault overall and try to find solutions for it. I think there are examples of great ways to do that (bring attention to it I mean, no clue how to fix it), one that comes to mind is the whole movement that I think was called #metoo or something along those lines? I think it brought a lot of attention to this and it allowed me personally to understand better the depth of the issue of safety for women. It made me more aware, it made me reconsider many things and made me want to be helpful.
Today there was another post around where it was asked of women “if all men disappear for 24 hours without consequences, what would you do in that time”. So many many answers were just “go party with my girlfriends and dress however I want and get hammered without feeling threatened” or something similar, and that post alone made the issue of safety for women so much clearer and stand out so perfectly than this meme, and more importantly the original question…
The problem is that this kind of discussion creates a barrier, it divides, it moves the discussion from the real issue, women’s safety, to a wrong topic, are men as dangerous as a bear. In itself it’s a question that promotes another type of sexism, it promotes fear, with the excuse of making a point and raising awareness. Instead of raising awareness it’s muddling the waters in reality which is not the way anyone will be feeling safer in any way.