You’re being a pedant and intentionally ignoring the message. And men are calling women stupid while pretending to be stupid (or God forbid, actually being stupid). Learn what a metaphor and hyperbole is, and their literary functions. Then realize this isn’t about literally spending time in the woods with a bear.
So, what you’re saying is it’s not sexist for women to say they’re afraid of men, and if you are that means you’re a dangerous sort of man. And of course the fear is acceptable because statistics say men are more likely to do violence than women, justifying that it’s not sexist - just statistics.
Now as a hypothetical, imagine white folks looking at FBI violent crime stats (UCR Table 43 if you’re curious) and saying they’re afraid of blacks. You can see how that’s racist, right? Even though statistics say black folks are more likely to assault, rape or kill you than white folks? Still racist, right? Should black folks be upset or insulted by the white folks in this hypothetical, and if they are does that make them part of the problem?
I keep seeing this like it’s some sort of gotcha. It isn’t.
Disregarding the fact that the power dynamics are reversed…actually, no, never mind. Black violence is systemically perpetuated by a malicious and powerful group of people who thought it was okay to own people like property and still struggle to see black people as human. We are put in prisons, shot, and killed over these systemically enforced biases that we continually struggle to escape from. This issue is political because my very existence in this country is political, and it has to be tackled from many different directions to overcome due to its influence going back generations and being rooted in actual evil.
Women are scared of men because men have been scaring them all throughout history. Matriarchies are significantly more rare than patriarchies, because men have historically been dicks and lust for power. They also have historically been slaves to lust, and regularly take advantage of women to sate their lust. In both examples, men and women are animals subservient to a dominant power.
That said, what do you think my response is to a misinformed white human who thinks I’m a dangerous criminal based only on the color of my skin?
Just say you’re scared of men. That’s still unreasonable and a little insulting, but understandable. Don’t rank us below a wild bear. The bear is what makes men angry.
Feeling insulted is a red flag dude. That’s an aggressive response to something that doesn’t actually affect you negatively if you aren’t a threat. If you are good, your actions will demonstrate this, and women won’t feel so threatened.
Are you insulted when a kitten is wary of you? And hides under the couch because you might hurt her? Do you blame the kitten for running from your imposing stature and booming voice? If a kitten was abused before making it to you, do you hold it against the kitten? Or do you nurture her and show her that you are a friend and that you have no intention of ever hurting her? People need to feel safe the same way a kitten does. This is not a bad thing.
Wow, cryophilia that might be the most dishonest argument I’ve seen. It certainly is the worst one i can think of. Read a whole post before responding, Oh intelligent and rational one.
Speaking as a woman who has been assaulted and harassed on multiple occasions by more than one man, I’d just interject that bears can at least be pretty predictable. If you don’t bother it, it very probably won’t bother you. The men who have assaulted and/or harassed me were people that (I thought) I knew and had been normal up to that point.
This is a hyperbole, and if push comes to shove, I would rather be dropped in a forest with another human… but if that human is a man that is a stranger, then I’m going to have a different kind of guard up than I would for a bear.
TL;DR: It’s easier to predict animal behavior than human behavior, and the best won’t lie about being a friend before attacking you.
The issue is many women are going “obviously it’s hyperbole”, “obviously it’s an analogy”, so maybe don’t say shit like that? It’s insulting.
And then you get some other (mentally ill imo) women saying, no, I would literally rather be mauled by a bear than have to exist around a male stranger.
Maybe you’re just dense? It seems pretty damn obvious if you can read between the lines. It seems to me that you don’t like that you dont understand, so you’re blaming it on everyone else. Dont blame others that you aren’t picking up what others are putting down
I’m a dude, and it’s pretty straightforward if you can put yourself in the shoes of someone who has had a terrible thing done to them. They don’t want to be even near a situation like that again. The point isnt the bear. You could replace that with anything. It could be a humpback whale, a lion, or a capybara. The animal isn’t the point its the inherent unfairness of women that have to live their life in fear of men. Due to a past experience or even just caution.
Where do they get off comparing men to something they’ve never experienced (being alone with a bear)?
Compare apples to oranges then darvo when you’re called out on your misandrist false comparison…
You’re being a pedant and intentionally ignoring the message. And men are calling women stupid while pretending to be stupid (or God forbid, actually being stupid). Learn what a metaphor and hyperbole is, and their literary functions. Then realize this isn’t about literally spending time in the woods with a bear.
The words are the message. Women do not get a pass to insult all men and then say “oh, what I really meant was…”
No, fuck that. You said what you said, and it’s sexist as hell.
The women said they’re scared of men. You took it as an insult and became hostile. You are the bear.
So, what you’re saying is it’s not sexist for women to say they’re afraid of men, and if you are that means you’re a dangerous sort of man. And of course the fear is acceptable because statistics say men are more likely to do violence than women, justifying that it’s not sexist - just statistics.
Now as a hypothetical, imagine white folks looking at FBI violent crime stats (UCR Table 43 if you’re curious) and saying they’re afraid of blacks. You can see how that’s racist, right? Even though statistics say black folks are more likely to assault, rape or kill you than white folks? Still racist, right? Should black folks be upset or insulted by the white folks in this hypothetical, and if they are does that make them part of the problem?
I keep seeing this like it’s some sort of gotcha. It isn’t.
Disregarding the fact that the power dynamics are reversed…actually, no, never mind. Black violence is systemically perpetuated by a malicious and powerful group of people who thought it was okay to own people like property and still struggle to see black people as human. We are put in prisons, shot, and killed over these systemically enforced biases that we continually struggle to escape from. This issue is political because my very existence in this country is political, and it has to be tackled from many different directions to overcome due to its influence going back generations and being rooted in actual evil.
Women are scared of men because men have been scaring them all throughout history. Matriarchies are significantly more rare than patriarchies, because men have historically been dicks and lust for power. They also have historically been slaves to lust, and regularly take advantage of women to sate their lust. In both examples, men and women are animals subservient to a dominant power.
That said, what do you think my response is to a misinformed white human who thinks I’m a dangerous criminal based only on the color of my skin?
I prove them wrong.
Just say you’re scared of men. That’s still unreasonable and a little insulting, but understandable. Don’t rank us below a wild bear. The bear is what makes men angry.
Feeling insulted is a red flag dude. That’s an aggressive response to something that doesn’t actually affect you negatively if you aren’t a threat. If you are good, your actions will demonstrate this, and women won’t feel so threatened.
Are you insulted when a kitten is wary of you? And hides under the couch because you might hurt her? Do you blame the kitten for running from your imposing stature and booming voice? If a kitten was abused before making it to you, do you hold it against the kitten? Or do you nurture her and show her that you are a friend and that you have no intention of ever hurting her? People need to feel safe the same way a kitten does. This is not a bad thing.
Are you saying women have the intelligence of a kitten?
Do you seriously lack this much reading comprehension, or are you just pretending to be daft?
I dunno, I just like to hope women are smart enough to be rational.
Wow, cryophilia that might be the most dishonest argument I’ve seen. It certainly is the worst one i can think of. Read a whole post before responding, Oh intelligent and rational one.
So like, do you think women are too stupid to act rationally? Or no?
Speaking as a woman who has been assaulted and harassed on multiple occasions by more than one man, I’d just interject that bears can at least be pretty predictable. If you don’t bother it, it very probably won’t bother you. The men who have assaulted and/or harassed me were people that (I thought) I knew and had been normal up to that point.
This is a hyperbole, and if push comes to shove, I would rather be dropped in a forest with another human… but if that human is a man that is a stranger, then I’m going to have a different kind of guard up than I would for a bear.
TL;DR: It’s easier to predict animal behavior than human behavior, and the best won’t lie about being a friend before attacking you.
The issue is many women are going “obviously it’s hyperbole”, “obviously it’s an analogy”, so maybe don’t say shit like that? It’s insulting.
And then you get some other (mentally ill imo) women saying, no, I would literally rather be mauled by a bear than have to exist around a male stranger.
Maybe you’re just dense? It seems pretty damn obvious if you can read between the lines. It seems to me that you don’t like that you dont understand, so you’re blaming it on everyone else. Dont blame others that you aren’t picking up what others are putting down I’m a dude, and it’s pretty straightforward if you can put yourself in the shoes of someone who has had a terrible thing done to them. They don’t want to be even near a situation like that again. The point isnt the bear. You could replace that with anything. It could be a humpback whale, a lion, or a capybara. The animal isn’t the point its the inherent unfairness of women that have to live their life in fear of men. Due to a past experience or even just caution.
The point is absolutely the bear. Without the bear, it’s a reasonable statement. With the bear (or any other animal) it’s an insult.