• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    There’s got to be a line drawn at blatant misandry/misogyny/racism/antisemitism/etc

    There’s no call to calm down and have a rational discussion with Klan members, for example. Racism is unacceptable. Maybe that’s not the best course of action, but it’s how society has decided to treat the subject.

    Why does misandry get a pass? It should be just as unacceptable as misogyny or racism or transphobia.

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      4 months ago

      Misandry is as much of a problem as racism against white people. That is to say, it isn’t one. People are punching up or punching sideways, which is fine. It’s how you make positively inflammatory political statements.

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        4 months ago

        Most homeless are men, most prisoners are men, most victims of crime are men, and most civilians killed in wars are men

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          Sometimes things are more nuanced than “bad thing is bad”. We have thousands of years of history underpinning this conversation, and for most of that time, women were treated like dirt. It is healthy, natural, and human for an underclass to harbor fear and resentment toward its oppressor class. And if the way that is expressed is twitter memes, so be it.

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            It is healthy, natural, and human for an underclass to harbor fear and resentment toward its oppressor class.

            Bullshit, bullshit, and bullshit.

            It may be natural but it’s not good. It’s one of those stupid monkey urges that we should be suppressing as evolved, sentient beings.

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            4 months ago

            Sure, it’s more nuanced, misandry doesn’t have as much a visceral impact on men’s lives. But to minimise it to nothing is a bit far don’t you think? That’s the same black and white un-nuanced thinking you’re accusing others of.

            Women being able to be shitty people doesn’t make all men saints automatically. There is no absolution of sin by proving the other “side” is bad too

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      4 months ago

      Sure the statement being so inflammatory crosses the line into unacceptable misandry, but society clearly isn’t ready to just accept that.

      I honestly don’t have a solution

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        Honestly, thinking about it rationally, maybe we should be having more discussion with Klan members. Instead of alienating them, we could convince them that racism is stupid.

        But that’s tough to do. I couldn’t do it.

        For our current purposes, I’m just arguing for consistency.