If the bear didn’t matter it wouldn’t be in the question. You’re not saying “men can be dangerous”. You’re saying “the average man is specifically scarier than a bear” which is gross and insulting and a terrible, toxic mindset.
The average man isn’t going to rape me. The average bear also would rather leave me alone than maul me. But I have been sexually assaulted by men. I’ve never been mauled by a bear. I think it’s understandable one of those fears is a lot more real to me than the other.
You’re not talking to people who just decided to fear men for no reason. You’re talking to trauma victims and their family and friends. Traumas cause irrational fears. Getting upset that a trauma victim is afraid of reliving their trauma just straight up lacks any kind of empathy.
Great. That’s an explanation, not an excuse. What you’re saying is that a lot of women need a lot of therapy because they’re letting their traumas dictate their actions.
Getting upset that a trauma victim is afraid of reliving their trauma just straight up lacks any kind of empathy.
Empathy went out the window when women decided to call bears less dangerous than men. That’s not an empathetic statement. That’s a bullshit statement. Sure, driven by trauma and an understandable irrational reaction, but bullshit all the same.
Therapy isn’t a cure all for trauma. And trauma that is easily relived is not trauma that is easily gotten over. Also, obviously they’re letting trauma dictate their actions. That’s kinda how trauma works. If you behave completely the same before and after your trauma then by definition you weren’t traumatized.
And the point of the statement isn’t that bears are literally less dangerous than men. It’s to show how real and intense the fear is. Not to say “men are more dangerous than bears,” but “women feel more threatened by men than bears,” which is not even close to the same thing. It’s a simple attempt to help men understand how we feel and make it clear why we need the boundaries we do. That is inherently an empathetic statement. You being offended by it doesn’t make it an insult.
Let me tell you, I happen to have also been the victim of other women, and fear them just as much, but mysteriously nobody pops up to quote statistics or tell me I’m the real problem here when I express that fear, especially not other women. I’ve never had a woman get offended by me not wanting to be in a room alone with her.
And the point of the statement isn’t that bears are literally less dangerous than men. It’s to show how
Nah fuck that. If I say “all women are bitches” but what I really mean is that some women have an unfounded sense of entitlement, that’s still a completely unacceptable thing to say.
Nobody said “men are more dangerous than bears.” You made that up in your head to be offended about. They said “I’d rather be alone in the woods with a bear than a man,” and I explained to you how that’s a very different thing. If you’re going to continue to be intentionally obtuse and ignore that I’m not interested in explaining again.
Your explanation was that women are so traumatized and fearful that they can’t help but say hyperbolic things that they don’t actually mean. To make a point, or something.
I don’t see how those two sentences are any different. Your explanation was that “I’d rather be in the woods with a bear than a man” actually means whatever. Well the statement wasn’t that whatever. That whatever might or might not be insulting and hurtful. “I’d rather be in the woods with a bear than a man” is insulting and hurtful, so don’t fucking say that. Say whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean, instead.
If the bear didn’t matter it wouldn’t be in the question. You’re not saying “men can be dangerous”. You’re saying “the average man is specifically scarier than a bear” which is gross and insulting and a terrible, toxic mindset.
The average man isn’t going to rape me. The average bear also would rather leave me alone than maul me. But I have been sexually assaulted by men. I’ve never been mauled by a bear. I think it’s understandable one of those fears is a lot more real to me than the other.
You’re not talking to people who just decided to fear men for no reason. You’re talking to trauma victims and their family and friends. Traumas cause irrational fears. Getting upset that a trauma victim is afraid of reliving their trauma just straight up lacks any kind of empathy.
Great. That’s an explanation, not an excuse. What you’re saying is that a lot of women need a lot of therapy because they’re letting their traumas dictate their actions.
Empathy went out the window when women decided to call bears less dangerous than men. That’s not an empathetic statement. That’s a bullshit statement. Sure, driven by trauma and an understandable irrational reaction, but bullshit all the same.
Therapy isn’t a cure all for trauma. And trauma that is easily relived is not trauma that is easily gotten over. Also, obviously they’re letting trauma dictate their actions. That’s kinda how trauma works. If you behave completely the same before and after your trauma then by definition you weren’t traumatized.
And the point of the statement isn’t that bears are literally less dangerous than men. It’s to show how real and intense the fear is. Not to say “men are more dangerous than bears,” but “women feel more threatened by men than bears,” which is not even close to the same thing. It’s a simple attempt to help men understand how we feel and make it clear why we need the boundaries we do. That is inherently an empathetic statement. You being offended by it doesn’t make it an insult.
Let me tell you, I happen to have also been the victim of other women, and fear them just as much, but mysteriously nobody pops up to quote statistics or tell me I’m the real problem here when I express that fear, especially not other women. I’ve never had a woman get offended by me not wanting to be in a room alone with her.
Nah fuck that. If I say “all women are bitches” but what I really mean is that some women have an unfounded sense of entitlement, that’s still a completely unacceptable thing to say.
Nobody said “men are more dangerous than bears.” You made that up in your head to be offended about. They said “I’d rather be alone in the woods with a bear than a man,” and I explained to you how that’s a very different thing. If you’re going to continue to be intentionally obtuse and ignore that I’m not interested in explaining again.
Your explanation was that women are so traumatized and fearful that they can’t help but say hyperbolic things that they don’t actually mean. To make a point, or something.
I don’t see how those two sentences are any different. Your explanation was that “I’d rather be in the woods with a bear than a man” actually means whatever. Well the statement wasn’t that whatever. That whatever might or might not be insulting and hurtful. “I’d rather be in the woods with a bear than a man” is insulting and hurtful, so don’t fucking say that. Say whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean, instead.