• Neato@ttrpg.network
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    6 months ago

    This isn’t about bullying or helping. It’s about rape and kidnapping. This is an entirely different fear and problem.

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      6 months ago

      The shit thing is it’s about rape and kidnapping, and not about being eaten alive. All the women are acting like the bear is a fucking teddy bear. Of course I’d prefer to be with a teddy bear then a strange person.

      It’s like covid and antivaxxers. All these women who picked the bear should be dropped off on Kodiak island and left to fend for themselves. One way or another, eventually most living women would pick the man.

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        6 months ago

        The question wasn’t would you rather share a cave with a man or a bear. No, you have an entire forest to avoid the bear in. Unless you’re for some reason in a forest with a polar bear, the bear is going to leave you alone assuming you don’t piss it off or threaten it. Being eaten alive (it would absolutely kill you first) is simply an avoidable threat. Predictability and avoidability is the key here.

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            6 months ago

            Oof. I imagine that’s a rather rare occurrence, but I stand corrected nonetheless.

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          6 months ago

          Black bears, sure, probably. Brown bears are fucking dangerous.

          I think a big thing this illustrates is how many people have no idea that wild animals can be dangerous.

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            6 months ago

            Bear attacks are incredibly rare. Even brown/grizzly bears just want to be left alone, the only bear that actively hunts humans are polar bears. If you’re attacked by a grizzly, it’s because it thinks you’re a threat, not food. Now, true, if you do piss off the bear, then you’re probably fucked. So I’m not saying bears aren’t dangerous, but that their level of danger can be predicted and avoided to at least an extent.

            You can’t really say that about people. Most men are good people and would help you, so on average they’re safer. But unlike bears, you have to ask, “what if they’re one of the bad ones?”, especially so if you’re alone in a forest with them without the punishment of society to deter them. I mean, 1 in 6 women in America have experienced either attempted or successful sexual violence, and again, that’s in a society where they can actually get punished for it. So it’s not exactly a statistical anomaly that the man you’re stuck in a forest with is a bad actor.

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              6 months ago

              If women encountered as many bears in their day to day life as they do men, I’m sure the number of deadly bear attacks would be much higher than the rate of assault from strange men.

              It’s stupid on so many levels. Statistically, you’re far more likely to be murdered by a woman than be attacked by a shark. But no one is going around saying that sharks are safer than women.

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            I think a big thing this illustrates is how many people have no idea that wild animals can be dangerous.

            I think a big thing this illustrates is that, the fact that some people even consider bear means many people have no idea that women have been trained to treat any strange man as dangerous. Either through society or past experiences. Either way, that’s fucked up.

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              6 months ago

              We knew women view men as suspicious. That’s totally fair. Hell, I view men as suspicious.

              We didn’t realize so many women were so absolutely stupid.

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                  6 months ago

                  “Anyone who disagrees with me is one of the people I’m attacking” is one of the oldest and shittiest arguments of mankind.

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                    6 months ago

                    "Anyone who disagrees with me is so absolutely stupid is one of the oldest and shittiest arguments of mankind.

                    FTFY.