• Not_mikey@slrpnk.net
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    8 months ago

    Would you say the same if the argument was about the inherent danger of black men? If a bunch of white women were online saying black men are dangerous we wouldn’t say that black men calling it out were “magically claiming false victimhood” we’d say those women’s fears, even if they are truly felt, are a product of prejudice and unfair and they’re spreading of these ideas is damaging.

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      …but no one is making this racist except those trying to cause arguments, and those who don’t understand what women are saying.

      Yes, if someone said something racist and meant it, they’d be a racist. Women are not doing that.

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        You seriously think women are equally afraid of white men as they are of black men, or Muslim men, or immigrant men?

        The answer is no. Which is why right wing groups astroturfed this meme in the first place - to otherize minority groups and increase xenophobic policies. All under the name of protecting women/feminism

        Which is what always happens - we need to protect our virginal women from the foreign hordes. Fascism has a pretty simple playbook

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          I’m pretty sure every woman I regularly interact with has realized that white men are scarier than men of color, by and large. Have you been paying attention for the last 8 years?

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            Have you been paying attention for the last 8 years?

            To all the men of color who keep getting disproportionately murdered and seen as superpredators? To all the white women who cross the street everytime they see a black man? To all the white mothers who refuse to send their kids to the public school because it’s too “”“dangerous”“”?

            Yes I have noticed that.

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        8 months ago

        … But no one is being thrown into the woods with a random stranger or a bear. Like the original question this is a hypothetical meant to prove a point. The original point seems to be “the average man is dangerous” , this is meant to show that point can be prejudiced/sexist. It’s meant to show that the argument that some people are saying they’re afraid of a group therefore we must validate that fear can lead to some bad places and shouldn’t be used. This argument is at the core of what the comment I replied to.

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          It’s not proving reality it’s demonstrating a feeling, but as most people aren’t answering honestly, it’s just demonstrating the cultural environment. The most we can really say is women feel comfortable picking the obviously funny / polemic answer.