• Chill Dude 69@lemmynsfw.com
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    11 months ago

    Also, adding neon green food coloring to your fucking peas isn’t a poverty move. That food coloring isn’t free. And it’s probably shrinking your balls.

    Sorry, I guess that would be “bollocks.”

  • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Yeah because the British are a historically poor country right? Not like South America or Asia!

    What those people do to beans should be considered a war crime.

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      11 months ago

      People that take the “haha British food bad” meme this seriously are peak redditor.

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        11 months ago

        Yes, although the American ones come in a different, much more sugary sauce, which has led to Americans being confused as to why people would put it on toast and top with cheese.

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          UK food has lots of seasoning, I really don’t know where this meme comes from.

          The UK actually has spicier food than anywhere else in Europe. The only other countries really being Spain and Hungary.

          Even putting aside how massive British-Indian cuisine is here, there’s extensive use of English mustard, which is spicy (try it if you haven’t, it’s nothing like American or Dijon mustards), and horseradish, which is basically wasabi.

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          They abandoned the spices when France did. The reason? Poor people could also afford spices so it was no longer a status symbol. The new status symbol was simple meals of very fresh meat and vegetables cooked with complicated methods requiring many hours and loads of practice.

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      11 months ago

      All Mexican food is delicious, but that’s not a difficult feat when you fry everything and smother it with cheese and sauces. Heck man, they even have a chicken dish that’s mixed with chocolate. They’re all about flavor, health and fitness be damned.

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        11 months ago

        You ever have a guac or huitlacoche taco? Delicious and incredibly nutritious.

        Still poor people food.

        Also, not nearly as much Mexican food as you think is fried or cheese centric and moles are a hugely important facet of Mesoamerican cuisine and can vary in terms of how calorie packed they are.

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    11 months ago

    Blows my mind every time I get reminded of toast sandwiches - it’s treated with the same sense of normalcy that I would have for, say, microwave ramen

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      11 months ago

      Famous for their French cuisine.

      But I’m just ribbing; Toad in the hole is fucking delicious.

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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      British food is unironically amazing.

      Roast dinners, English Breakfast, British-Indian cuisine, cakes/puddings, pies and pastries, casseroles, cheeses, fucking sandwiches, a well-executed fish and chips. Shit, even super basic stuff like Macaroni cheese can taste really good if it’s made with some good technique.

      But what’s even more amazing is the US’s ability to push stereotypes based on WW2 rationing even into the 2020s.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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        Agreed. I was raised by an English father and an English grandmother. There is a lot of amazing British cuisine. A good shepherd’s pie is heavenly. Sure, there’s also disgusting British food (I’m looking at you, Marmite), but there’s disgusting food in every culture.

        Also, British candy is so much superior to American candy. I can’t think of a single candy in America that comes even close to a Rowntree’s black currant fruit pastille. And the British know what licorice is. Americans think it’s that red shit and they think real licorice is disgusting.

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          No, he Malaysian, as is the character. Just because he immigrated doesn’t mean you claim him. Do you work for the East India Company?

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      British food is a bit like the English language. We robbed everyone else of all the best bits which could get our hands on. We then reimagined them. “Chinese” and “Indian” food are good examples of this.

      For proper good English food, you have to go back a bit. It tended to be simple, high quality food, done well. The traditional roast is a good example. Along with its fancy cousin, the beef wellington. A good stew, or casserole can be amazing, when done well. A lot of “rich people” food gets thrown in with “french cuisine”.

      Beyond those you have the traditional dishes, things like a ploughman’s lunch, or a shepherds/cottage pie. Suet pies can be wonderful if done right, and desserts like carrot cake can be excellent. Even the classic British fried breakfast can be a thing of beauty, with proper care.

      Unfortunately, almost all of these have been heavily bastardised now. The big supermarkets have conditioned us to crap food. Even finding good ingredients is a challenge now. The fruit and veg we get are dire, and it’s difficult to build a mighty tower on poor foundations.

      Oh, and also remember, we exported a LOT of our food around the world. British cuisine formed a baseline for measuring other cultures to be measured against.

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        A lot of “rich people” food gets thrown in with “french cuisine”.

        A lot of British “rich people” food is french cuisine. What with your nobles being basically french for some time, and also having a boner for our rich fucks’ ways for a long time after that

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          The whole situation is fairly incestuous (a bit like the old money rich). If an English ‘french’ cook improved something, it would get rolled into ‘french’ cooking. It could even flow back to the ‘french’ cooks in France, given time. At this point we just don’t know anymore how information flowed.

          On top of that, anything that seems to match the French style gets thrown in with French cuisine. Whether it was actually a French invention or not doesn’t matter.

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    All that hoity-toity British “poor” food, only available at restaurants. Meanwhile, tacos are literally found on the streets the world over, where they are always delicious.

    What I’m saying is: 🌮 > 🇬🇧

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    You know what else is poor food? Duck confit.

    You know what else? Soul food is literally food made from things slaves got and grew themselves. Like, it’s below poor food and it’s absolutely amazing.

    There’s poverty food from all over the world that’s amazing. The English are just bad at food.

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      We have different definitions of what amazing is. Poor food, is only poor food, because people with money choose better things because those better things have a higher taste ceiling, therefore poor food can only ever be average at best, else is it really poor food?

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        That’s a bit wrong. Poverty food was poverty food a lot of time just because it wasn’t trendy for the rich and royals to eat the same food as the common people. They may even have preferred the poor food, but they couldn’t eat that in view of others.

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    they realize that every culture’s cuisine is dictated by the poor doing what they can with what they have, right? Do you think my italian-american ancestors were hype to eat beans and paste every day for its own sake? No, they did it because they had 170 kids each and could only find work throwing garbage over the hill into the pond for 2 cents a year. It’s just that they also made it really, really good.

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      11 months ago

      “When this food is made good its made good” also applies to British cuisine. You’re telling me that brandy cake made with a type of fat that supercedes butter for all of its baking properties, Corinthian raisins and a warm brandy/cream sauce doesn’t sound good?

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        I didn’t say anything about British food being good or not good. I said that if you’re gonna start with the premise that British food is bad and try to explain it with poverty you’re gonna have to explain why impoverished people everywhere else are turning out bangers like Max Martin in 1999.

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            Their point is: poor people recipes from Italy taste better than poor people recipes from the UK, generally.

            Your point is: it’s possible to make UK recipes taste better if you do them a certain way, specifically.

            They are speaking generally and you are speaking specifically. Hope that helps you understand.

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              But I described the most basic recipe for spotted dick, made in the most peasant way possible?

              Brandy is the cheapest alcohol and easily home-made, the peasant-way of preserving both fruit and bread (/cake) in the UK, suet is more peasant than butter or other forms of fat because it is the rendered fat from discarded animal carcasses, but that process actually makes it more rich .

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                You gave a specific example of one recipe, to combat the notion that Italian food is generally better. I don’t know how to explain it any differently to you, but you’re not having the same conversation as the rest of us right now.

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    Taiwanese man who can cook. Dated a British girl in college. I normally cook and one day she decided to cook for me.

    I went into the kitchen to see what was happening and she was boiling the broccoli… in just water… No salt…no oil… just water.

    She was also microwaving some kind of yellow peas in the microwave… in just water.

    I haven’t made it over to the UK to try real British food, but as of now, it’s not very favorable.