All countries are a few steps away from this type of shit. Nation states may have been a good departure from monarchies but have very much proven to be trash; the “cultures” and “ethnicities”, etc. they proclaim to protect seem very much to be bullshit money-making schemes at best. A serious shift away from vertical economic and social hierarchies is the only solution. But deprogramming the world is not going to be easy.

Seethe big humourless racist-man.

Homophobes and racists should not exist, prejudice is cultural and a lot of the time revolves around socio-economic reality. Even in the richest western countries homophobia is still a problem, and not just in the minority communities that are fucked 6 ways to Sunday for the most part anyway. Creating boogeymen is what cultures do, and just as religious people create gay boogeymen; in the west, white people create non-white boogeymen.

Trauma is universal. Don’t be a bigot!

It’s a racist-off folks!

I’m satirising your own shitty position, even if unsuccessfully. You seem to be set on missing that point out of anything you’re saying.

I don’t think it has to be a choice and both actually need to happen. It sounds like you just want to continue eating meat despite everything you know.

Also the ethics of killing sentient creatures for the pleasure of taste aside, the problem is one, as you said of economy and scale of industry, which compounds both the natural effects and the cruelty, to not only the slaughtered but the slaughterer and the consumer too. What we’re both saying is the capitalist system is inherently shit for our environments, but I believe that killing animals for our pleasure is also bad for our psyches.

I like Alien more than Aliens.

Ah, so the day you see mosques hanging lgbt flags isn’t the day you respect blah blah blah. Stop kidding yourself, face your own prejudice before you start spewing your hate. I fucking hate religion with a passion, but you know what I hate more? Racist and nationalist idiots who are blind to their own prejudice. Homophobia is as much a cancer to the world as is your shitty prejudiced world view. Don’t use other people’s prejudice to exercise your own. Fuck your hate.

Search lgbtq mosque on google you lazy twat. Also I think the fact you don’t see muslims doing this that and the other says more about you than muslims. The blind prejudice in these comments makes you seem like idiots.

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Nah, I’m talking about “white people” not pink race. Also well done for both towing the racist line and not getting a joke. Bravo Eugh-person.

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The point you seem to be missing is if they can’t sell as much meat they won’t produce as much. So the most the consumer can do is stop eating meat; when sales go down, production will have to follow.

Meat-eating has a heavy cultural component and industry follows culture, but the problem is that industry also tries to create culture to grow, it’s the way capitalism works. So as a consumer in the age of information you have to be hyper aware of your own personal culture, and see how much your actions are a result of your own convictions versus effective advertising and indoctrination from your environment, family, etc.

My comment was more about the knee-jerk reaction to new ideas and new ways of looking at things you may think you are already familiar with.

I’m not arguing for anything. Just saying what I see.

A lot of people in the comments can’t seem to make the distinction between what they have been fed since they were little and that they are used to, and what is good, or tastes good.

Democracy is a lie. It cannot work under conservatism. It does not work within a capitalist economy. It does not work in a vertical hierarchy. People do not function as people in a vertical hierarchy. Of course Brexit failed, just like the British Empire, and just like every single political entity ever has and will fail. Even if they seem to succeed for a while, they will always fail, and they will always fail humanity.

Our socioeconomic structures are not so different from any other animal’s. Though the answer is right there in front of us, our emotionally manipulated, fearful existences have trapped us in these ridiculous concepts and arguments.

If we want people to be human and not scared and trapped animals, we have to take away the thing that keeps us animalistic, which is the need to lean on something “greater” than ourselves.

All we currently seem to be are clusters of endless daddy issues; religion, nationalism, success, wealth, value: hierarchies of daddy issues.

According to Camus “the struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man’s heart.” So he thinks Sissy was pretty happy. I want to know if you asked Monty Hall to ask Sisyphus, would he be able to tell him the truth about his emotional state?

Brainwashing, exposure to a single bigoted narrative their whole lives, ignorance and hypocrisy. Europe has a proud history of cryptoracism. The real question is why are Europeans so obsessed with ethnicity? Brainwashing, exposure to a single bigoted narrative their whole lives, ignorance and hypocrisy… ad nauseum. Nationalism (and other emotional manipulations) to drive economy is a global blight.

69kg is actually a pretty normal weight, 69lbs is super light, 69st would be incredibly fat. 69F would be super cold and 69C would be ridiculously hot. 69K would be insanely cold.