Yeah, I was referring to official forums for technical support or feature requests and the like. I don’t really think that everyday people were usually the ones who setup forums, it is website operators and other techies who set those up. The people who setup an independent forum are not the same people who setup a discord community. Discord has a much lower barrier to entry that usually results in a lower quality information and moderation than a forum would.

I mean, yeah, forums are harder, for sure. $20-35 monthly for a mail provider seems to high to me; I would expect that to be about the yearly cost. But, I don’t really have much experience with an email provider for that use case. Really the problem lies in that a website operator and a community maintainer are 2 very different types of people that rarely intersect.

Discourse is a forum software. Maybe you are mixing it up with something else like disqus?

what might everyday people use to set up forums as relatively easily and cheaply as their Discord servers, and not have them riddled with ads or other clunky elements?

Discourse is a clean open source forum software that is commonly used for application support and well suited for it.

Or if your a real die hard for the fediverse, you could set up a lemmy instance for application support. There’s even a phpBB frontend for an oldschool forum look and feel for it.

Usually everyday people don’t setup forums, that’s the responsibility of the application owner(s) or provider. In this case, the easy option is also the shitty option if measured by discoverability of the content.

Uh … Yes. Everyone has an innate survival instinct. Sure in what seems like a shitty situation, life might feel hopeless temporarily, but I’d bet you’ll eventually adapt and get over the initial shock. I’m not sure what you mean by proper, but to me it seems like proper is just shorthand for what is profitable, useful, or easy to people with power.

IMO trying to make execution humane is kinda pointless. It is really just done to ease the guilt of those who participate and watch in it. If you participate in killing someone, you should feel guilty. That applies equally no matter if your carrying out a state-sanctioned murder or a street murder.

It’s an open source solution designed to scale to what the web was originally designed for and excels at. Documents. Specifically hyperlinked documents or webpages. You can’t reasonably expect an archival service to archive something that is by definition not static like an interactive web app.

I did just for you. Hope that makes you feel better.

Socialist policies are popular in polling. But as soon as they get called out as socialist, people shut down and revert to their mass produced programming. Capitalism good! Socialism Bad!

Relevant Section under Gift economies:

The expansion of the Internet has witnessed a resurgence of the gift economy, especially in the technology sector. Engineers, scientists, and software developers create open-source software projects. The Linux kernel and the GNU operating system are prototypical examples of the gift economy’s prominence in the technology sector and its active role in using permissive free software and copyleft licenses, which allow free reuse of software and knowledge.

Essentially the line of thought is that open source software is an example of mutual aid and the gift economy.

If you logged and saved all the files the first one requested you could potentially make it work. You could manually change of the file paths in the html if you only doing a few of them. There’s only like 10 or so paths that would need to be modified. The PHP ones are likely harder to make work as php is a server side language and you don’t likely have easy access to PHP server and everything that goes with it.

Anyway thanks for the link to to mynoise.net. It looks like a well designed, carefully crafted website.

It’s pretty hard to beat Oracle Cloud’s free tier Hosting.

I know what facism is. I also know that it is also commonly used as an insult and has therefore lost meaning for a lot of people. Call me ignorant if you want. I was simply making a point.

I see. With the link you should be able to query a geojson file that can then be imported into geojson.io. I used Query ‘GLOBALID IS NOT null’ to get the top 50 of 2000 results. That should give you a starting piont. The first link is just a way to query the data in this link

I’m unfamilar with Qgis but I have been able to import layers into geojson.io before from arcGIS.

Not sure what your use case is, but consider something like geojson.io if you can export the map data somehow. You might be able to do this from their interface or you might have to do browser network capturing to capture the requested data. It supports GeoJSON as well as KML, GPX, CSV, GTFS, TopoJSON formats.

First of all, since you never defined what you mean by fascism, I’m going to assume you are using as an insult as that is how it is commonly used.

No, I’m not concern trolling, just looking to have a discussion on how reductionist calling wanting to appeal to both sides of a political aisle as being third positionism or ‘fascist’ is. I never mentioned or disputed your points on Sarah Wagenknecht since I am not informed on that.

I guess, I take issue with the implied idea that everyone that says “both sides bad” or “both sides have a good point” is a third positionist and therefore a ‘fascist’. Appealing to both sides can be a way of consensus building and needs to be encouraged IMO. Real world issues are rarely black and white and assuming they are is why people are so divided.

You can acknowledge that certain groups get one idea or policy right without agreeing with them on everything or ‘enabling them’. It is called compromise. Just because some of the groups in history that used the term were authoritarian fascists does not mean every group that claims ‘there is a third position between capitalism and communism’ are authoritarian fascists(Wikipedia source for third positionist’s claim).

The third positionist’s claim is a true claim as evidenced by the fact that the most successful economies are mixed economies with both public(socialist) and private (capitalistic) enterprises. It is just a claim that has historically been used by bad actors(authoritarians) to gain power.

In rhetorical terms, you implying all third positionists bad or ‘fascist’ is an example of Genetic fallacy – a conclusion based solely on something or someone’s origin rather than its current meaning or context.

Maybe in this case, Sarah Wagenknecht is fascist. Maybe not. I am not familiar enough to make a judgement call.

But calling all populists or third positionist’s ‘fascists’ is as misleading as calling all US democrats ‘communists’. It is judging someone before you actually know what they stand for.

The other point: This article mentions she calls herself a “left-conservative”, which is an oxymoron

Left-conservative makes sense to me if you interpret it as left of economic issues while conservative on social issues.

Economic Policies ARE Social Policies

I tend to disagree with that thinking. Economic policies are concerned with the allocation of scarce resources in a society, while social policies are concerned with the distribution of welfare(basic resources or needs). They are interrelated, but they are not identical. Economic policies focus on productivity and growth while Social policies focus on health and inequality.

I can easily envision a society that is left economically while also being right socially. It would encourage worker coops and state run enterprises but on the other hand tacitly endorse traditional social values like racism and sexism via restrictive immigration and endorsing women as homemakers instead of in the workplace. I’m not saying that is ideal, but I am simply saying it could easily exist.

Note: Populism is IMO a very correct way of looking at the world. According to wikipedia, it “presents ‘the people’ as a morally good force and contrasts them against ‘the elite’, who are portrayed as corrupt and self-serving.”

In my experience, When regular people act immorally they are held accountable. When powerful people act immorally, they are much less likely to be held accountable.

Sorry, if I went too in depth here. It’s kinda hard to keep it succinct when discussing broad ideas.

Wanting to appeal to the left AND the right is just a third-positionist, which just ends up being another flavor of Fascism.

What do you base your claim that third positionism is fascism? Also what do you mean by fascism in this context?

I think that is way to broad a claim to actually be accurate and useful in real life. At least in the context of US politics where left and right as usually used are both actually more right economically but differ socially.

IMO the confusion people have is often from trying to conflate economic and social / political views. I see some third positionists as somewhat left on economic views and somewhat right on social views. Fascism on the other hand is usually right on the economy and right on social views along with being authoritarian.

What is more scary to me than some people fighting halfway across the world is how quickly people get so worked up over it. There are 14 other conflicts happening throughout the world that are similar in scale but you never hear about them because they are relatively poor countries. Humans have fought each other all throughout our history. Guess what? It still happens. It is quite simply decades of propaganda that causes such an intense reaction to an event like this. People only care about this because the people in charge of their media bubbles want them to care about it.

Yes, Hamas did a bad thing. No one is denying that. But take a step back and look at the context of the past 20 years. Israel has done many bad things to Palestine over the past years. Israel has killed ~10k+ Palestinians in the past 20 years vs the ~1k the Israelis that Palestinians have killed.

It is not surprising that pissed off enough Palestinians to convince them to do something about it. It is only surprising if you are only seeing tiny snippets of the big picture fed to you by one of the parties supporting the conflict.

Yes, I did not fully explain all the context of the situation. I did so intentionally as I was providing a high level overview. Omitting details does not make me wrong.

Which part is is inaccurate?

The conflict I am referring to in the second sentence is Haganah or Irgun’s bombing of the british embassy. To go into more detail, the same group of people that were assisting to bring Jews to Israel was also behind an attack on the British Embassy.

My understanding is that after ww2 lots of Jews moved to Israel until they made up a sizable portion of the population of Palestine. There was enough conflict between the 2 races/religions that Britian petitioned the UN to come up with a solution. The solution was breaking Palestine up into Israel and Palestine. There has been on and off conflict between the two groups ever since with Israel being the most successful in the conflict. I would say it’s recently been largely a cold conflict with a few little skirmishes between them. Conventions of War only apply if there someone willing to enforce them.