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  • But your so brainwashed you think you don’t have a choice to not go to church lol.

    You’re so brainwashed you think this is what 100% of religion looks like. I choose to go to my church and I know my church does not support and will not stand for priests committing crimes.

    "My denomination of the KKK is a good one, we barely do any racism. "

    This argument is assuming religion is fundamentally organized about hurting children, which is, of course, ridiculous. This is a textbook strawman argument.

    The fallacy doesn’t have to do with whether or not people have a choice in participating, it’s taking the absolute most extreme worst subset of a group and using that to represent the entire group, despite there being a huge variety and that subset really being only representative of a tiny fraction.

    That’s why I’m equating it to the idea that all Americans are war mongers. It’s a closely related train of thought to racism and sexism as well.


  • My experience was that the school provided free Windows keys for a personal computer if you needed one (they didn’t provide the computer itself) but the majority of computers I interacted with on campus (mostly in the computer lab) were Linux (some Debian variant iirc). I think the printing computers in the library were windows. I took an art class at one point and they had Macs (it was for using the Apple’s Final Cut Pro).

    We never used LibreOffice though. Everyone just uses Google Drive.



  • Most people engage in religion in ways that doesn’t have anything to do with the horrible things the worst people who practice that religion do.

    My local church flies a pride flag. If you want to support getting bad priests out of church, make sure that the church you attend, donate to, and volunteer for represents your values. You know, doing the bare minimum. But whatever makes you feel better about supporting the military industrial complex.


  • Ah so you get to the important part: if you go to a sane Catholic Church in the United States, choose to identify as catholic or not, choose to donate or otherwise support the church or not, choose to believe in “the same God” or not, nothing will happen to you.

    Similarly, said church won’t be responsible for the previously mentioned horrible things.

    Also similarly, if you refuse to pay taxes in the U.S., the absolute worst that will happen to you is you spend some time in jail, but unless you are someone like Al Capone it won’t go that far. You certainly won’t be killed.

    The overall point is, extrapolating the most extreme minority of an inhomogeneous group to make assumptions about every individual in the group is a strawman fallacy of an argument.


  • You want to be part of a money making, rule setting, kid raping, woman killing (see how any religion applies?!)

    With the “see how any religion applies” part you are so close to recognizing that this is a strawman argument.

    You can take any sufficiently large group of people and find bad subgroups. You can take any sufficiently large organization and find corruption.

    Your statement can apply to more than just religion. You could apply it to any country, for example.