Hmm. Not sure I agree with “just mark the parts that are AI generated” because that obfuscates the parts that were human made, skewing perception towards “it’s all AI gen”.

Require the full accounting - human, clanker, level.

• Design - Human
• Implementation - Pair
• Testing - Assist
• Documentation - Human
• Review - Human
• Deployment - Human

Reads differently to

• Implementation - Pair
• Testing - Assist

4/6 human vs ?? / Human is a different trust signal (which is what this is actually about, right?)

PS: I’m a fan of acronyms, so how about “show us the STACK or show us the DIRTY”

• Spec (Design)
• Testing
• Assembly (Implementation)
• Checks (Review)
• Knowledge (Documentation)

Or

• Design
• Implementation
• Review
• Testing
• Yeet (deployment)

Ive seen LTO for sale in person at the $300 USD mark…but I admit that’s a rare occurrence / fire sale. So that “as little as” is probably not fair. Sorry and retracted.

EBay shows some in the $1200-1500 USD range (and maybe closer to $3-4K brand new).

That now makes me feel stupid for walking past one at $300 (“tape drive? Who the fuck needs that ancient shit”) but I’m willing to bet that wasn’t a lto-8, in hindsight.

Even my LTO-3 claim is not as remembered; I can find a lto-3 for $60 USD here locally (not the $5 I jokingly claimed), with cartridges in the $15 USD range.

https://ebay.io/m/1UST3Y

https://ebay.io/m/Gcf77T

Not bad, but not 12TB per cartridge.

All of this to say; the DVD shuffler + pi intermediary (+ NVIDIA shield if needed) is probably the genuinely better version of this. Bizarrely.

Some people just want to watch the world burn

Stop enabling my drug addiction :P

You know the fun part is you could just about use a 750 zip disk to steam video. Read speeds are about 7.5mb/s…enough for 1-2 simultaneous 480p Jellyfin streams.

Shit…everybody about RAID and here we are suggesting RAIT. No school like old school.

I still think the “DVD shuffler clockwork JF server with AI upscale” idea would be more fun to build tho, because as stupid as it sounds, the maths adds up. It would be gloriously cursed, but 3000+ hours of video is 3000 + hours of video.

Its a really good version too. My favourite is probably the OG C64 (first love and all that) but the Wii has some real hidden gems.

Depends what era but generally yes. Xbox 360 seem to be in the 3-6GB range, Wii / GameCube in the 1-2GB range. Older gens are ofc smaller.

My entire gaming library is approx 200gb, but it’s curated, retro / indy focused (early 2000s to mid 2010’s)

• Beyond Sunset
• Citizen Sleeper
• Dino Strike (Wii)
• Divinity: Original Sin – Enhanced Edition
• Donut County
• Exo One
• Fallout 3
• Final Fantasy X (PS2)
• Firewatch
• Flower
• Go Vacation (Wii)
• Gun
• I Am Your Beast
• Inscryption
• Just Cause 2
• Killer Frequency
• LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1–4 (Wii)
• Lifeless Planet
• Luigi’s Mansion (GC)
• Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (GC)
• Mini Ninjas (Wii)
• New Super Mario Bros (Wii)
• Luanti
• Scanner Somber
• Shadow of the Colossus (PS2)
• A Short Hike
• Sid Meier’s Pirates! (Wii)
• Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe
• State of Mind
• Super Mario Sunshine (GC)
• SUPERHOT
• The Exit 8
• The House of the Dead: Overkill (Wii)
• The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction (GC)
• TOEM
• Twelve Minutes
• The Invincible
• Untitled Goose Game
• UnMetal
• Diablo 2
• WarioWare: Smooth Moves (Wii)
• We Love Katamari (PS2)
• Prince of Persia (Wii)
• Hitman 2 (GC)
• Cubivore (Wii)

Marty, we need to go back…to the future!

https://ebay.io/m/85Z5UG

(Mind you, those top out at 320GB per cartridge)

Kidding aside, for deep storage…?

LTO-8 is 12TB native per cartridge. A used LTO can be as little as $300 USD with a 12TB cart $65ish. Ancient LTO-3 can be had for like…$5…and stores upto 800GB per tape.

So…if it’s deep storage you want…that’s one insane option.

OTOH if you’re looking for a Jellyfin streamer…they’re tape, so random access would suck bad. You’d genuinely be better off optical media at that point lol

Though if we’re time travelling… DVD shufflers (400+ DVDs) were a thing for a minute. You’d have to write bridge software because they’re HDMI and com port only…hmm. Checking quickly, they seem to go for $100 USD…is this even possible…? You’d be limited to 1 stream at a time, but I can see a way to share that across multiple TVs with HDMI splitter…hmm…how do I carry RF remote signal from each room back to main unit…oh, I don’t need to, could I make a web ui that controls the shuffler via a Pi to RS-232, that you access on your phone?..Shit…i could do this.

$300…I could do this. I could make a clock work Jellyfin server…

No, stop. This is a dangerous rabbit hole.

PS: shit - I just thought of two better options - and one of them is even semi sane (store video at 480-540p on DVD as mkv, use Nvidia shield to upscale on fly to 1080p). Back of envelope maths suggests this would be around 3000 movies.

I should not be online this late at night with easy access to credit card.

Oh, it’s a MoE? That makes sense.

If you’re getting MiMo at -ctx 85K … you’re within spitting distance of SOTA. You can do real work with that.

I take it MiMo doesn’t do the Qwen “hyperventilate into a paper bag” loop as --ctx increases. Qwen’s seem to be really sensitive to that at lower quants.

I’m using 27B via OR API and I swear the diff providers use entirely diff quants. Sometimes you get a genius and other times a drooling mess.

I’m still impressed you got any MiMo to work at home, at 10 tok/s.

For those trying to visualise that -

https://mikeveerman.github.io/tokenspeed/?rate=10&mode=agent&think=10

Is it a constant 10 or does it (it must do, right?) drop off as context increases?

I imagine you must have compaction or something to mitigate that.

I think it’s actually a pretty interesting case study of how something from the open source community can get co-opted and fucked over.

That article is a good read.

As always, the game plan seems to be “disrupt, own the market, enshittify”.

It’s probably not tenable to do this. Approx 100% of projects touch AI in some way or another. See -

https://github.blog/news-insights/research/survey-ai-wave-grows/

The subtle irony of this shouldn’t escape us - your self hosted AI coming up with a solution to the tagging issue, causing you to be down voted.

It’s a good idea, anyway. [AIT] introduces just the right amount of friction while keeping transparency. +1 to your clanker’s suggestion.

This is one of my concerns also.

What Ollama did what that distill is shameful.

For those not in the know: they took a small, 8B model with Deepseek fine tune (Qwen3-8B iirc) and claimed it was the 400+B param Deepseek.

They essentially tricked folks into thinking they were running a near-peer SOTA model at home when in fact they were running a small language model (SLM) with crippled settings (again, iirc, ctx -4096 by default).

Lying via obfuscation is still lying.

You know, after last week, I’ve landed on the position that this is an intractable debate. Both sides have valid points and neither side is willing to concede or meet in the middle. That’s just people.

Ironically, I think both sides want he same thing - no bots, no slop.

To that end, for the proper functioning of this group, I think that the wisdom of having an AI tag (even though I personally think it’s a blunt tool) is probably the only productive way forward. The pro and anti sides will not see eye to eye…but at least with [AI] tag, maybe the worst excesses of both may be mitigated.

Cynically, if we look at Reddit as a “what not to do” example…the only thing that stops Lemmy from becoming Reddit 2.0 is friction. The tag provides friction.

Anything that stops the real slop invasion (ala r/localllm et al) is a big plus. I’d like to think that almost all of the users here are savvy enough to tell slop from real, but at the end of the day, if every other post becomes slop, it gets exhausting to deal with.

Bot posts on Lemmy have been on the rise, as (presumably) people migrate from Reddit and bots follow.

If the new community rules + AI tags can mitigate both slop and the FuckAI crowd, I’m for trying it.

EDIT: I think the [AIT] proposed else where is better than straight [AI] tag.

Yeah. Though I think theres a new strix out soon (Medusa? Gorgon? Something like that).

Its a bit like my P40. On paper, it has 24GB. But that 24gb is capped at 400GB/s and the ai compute is what…Pascal era?

AI = Good, fast, cheap - pick 2

Do you mean Sonnet 4.5?

I don’t have the rig to run it at real speeds but I’ve played with it over API. Seems pretty good.

I dunno what’s happened in the last week but there’s a Lemmy wide infestation of bots and spammers.

I think what you suggested is the right way forward. If things keep a pace, every other post will be slop. We need a (very) low bar for them to trip over.

Dunno what can be done about false reporting and brigading. Probably nothing. The saving grace of Lemmy is you can just hide / switch off vote visibility on client app.

I remember when karma and vote buttons became a thing and I remember thinking “oh, great idea”. No, no it was not.

LOL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowers_for_Algernon

Looks like someone got big mad over a harmless, good natured and on topic joke. You love to see it.

Sorry they wasted your time.