It’s not a cast iron skillet problem, it’s a mental health problem.

I mean, as long as it’s your cast iron skillet.

Fine by me as long as you keep old.lemmy for the rest of us. The current UI is about as good as it can be. I wouldn’t change a thing.

If it was quality opinions, I wouldn’t be handing them out for free. They’re free instead, so I don’t listen to complaints.

That’s the logical conclusion to draw when someone is criticizing the celebration of a vigilante murderer.

No, I think we need more people like him. Much more. I’m sure that’s a wonderful world to live in.

Why do you think my opinions are free then?

But clearly your opinion on my opinion is so important you need to share it with me.

Literally Hitler

Yay murder

Even if the penalty (death) can be morally justified it still shouldn’t be celebrated. Also, I oppose death penalty - the people celebrating this have no moral standing to oppose it too. They’re on the wrong side of history in my view.

It’s all fun and games as long as you get to decice who the dragons are. The people you oppose have their’s too.

Literally celebrating the murder of a person is what I mean.

So many here showing their true colors and demonstrating that they’re actually no better than the people they oppose.

Assuming his stance wasn’t antivax, it could be argued that he could have done much more with his platform to push for vaccine adoption

Oh absolutely, but it’s also pretty clear as why he didn’t. He wanted the votes from the anti-vaxx/mask people too so being ambiquous about that is just a political game tactic. It’s quite similar to how Kamala didn’t seem to want to take a clear stance on Israel or the border situation for example because doing so would likely alienate a large part of her base.

he also told people to inject bleach and take dangerous doses of horse dewormer.

I’m not defending everything Trump has said about ivermectin. My argument is that this specific claim about telling people to take dangerous doses of it is incorrect. If you think I’m mistaken, then please provide me with the quote where he says this because I can’t find it myself.

There was plenty false information about covid and the cures/treatments back then. “Masks don’t protect you from the virus” “The vaccine gives you immunity” “Lab leak theory is conspiracy and xenophobic” etc. It was a moving target. We dealt with the information we had. Some of it turned out to be wrong, some right. I can’t blame people for looking alternative treatments especially when for the longest time vaccines weren’t even available.

In a context where you know this was after a relatively long period of him not doing that.

I don’t agree with this. Operation warp speed was Trump’s project. When it comes to COVID, I feel like he was pro-vaccine since the beginning. Back then it was also the democrats who were expressing scepticism about the safety of it because they didn’t trust Trump and felt like the vaccine was rushed and not properly tested.

completely ignoring the mention of masks.

He has said sceptical things about masks that has caused distrust and conspiracies in the MAGA population. I don’t see the need to defend him on that one.

they can dislike what you are saying and it can also be wrong, they aren’t mutually exclusive.

Sure, but what I mean is that simply being downvoted doesn’t alone mean the information is incorrect and the opposite is true as well. There’s comments in this tread with false info that’s being upvoted.

How is this relevant? This isn’t about wether ivermectin is a treament for COVID or not. It’s about wether Trump has told people to take dangerous doses of it for which I can’t find any evidence for.

He definitely downplayed the seriousness of the pandemic in the beginning. No disagreement there.

However I still don’t quite agree with the suggestion that he’s anti-vaxx. Operation warp speed was his pet-project after all. He has made some vaccine critical comments in the past but personally I never got that impression of him during the pandemic.

You can say that but can you back it up with evidence? Because if not, it’s actually you whose spreading lies here.

Where have I said “no big deal”?

What have I lied about exactly?

What anti-vax claims has Trump made during or after covid?

Except that he did not tell people to inject bleach. That’s misinformation.

Also, calling ivermectin a “horse dewormer” is disingenuous and saying he has made claims about dosages is a lie. Yes, it was originally intented for veterinary use but it was approved for human use too in 1987. People used to buy the paste meant for animals to treat a skin condition because at the time that was the only way to get ivermectin without a perscription which doctors would refuse to write them. That’s where the horse dewormer narrative originates from. However, it’s a legitimate drug (though ineffective against COVID) and to claim otherwise is just partisan thinking not based in reality.