An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

What did it do to YouTube? I remember there being a huge uproar over it…but I don’t use it much but totally forgot that this even happened as it has made no difference for my light use.

This might be a good impetus to make that happen.

I mean, he’s right. It’s not the people’s fault he’s a piece of shit and should get out of Ukraine.

Yup, one of my good friends was always a very fun, accepting guy. His wife cheated on him, she wanted to make amends but he couldn’t and ended it.

Now his Facebook page is a constant stream of misogyny and trump support. Also whining about how people sometimes point out his bs claims instead of just allowing him to say things without being challenged.

It’s sad because we used to hang out all the time and have a great time, now he’s just completely insufferable.

Are you seriously arguing the family wouldn’t want genocide bright to light?

I already explicitly and directly told you this is untrue, and yet you still misrepresent it. Why? What purpose does it serve you to continually misrepresent my position?

your honestly arguing that the family might be pro genocide.

You can’t tell the difference between saying they might be against a memorial to their daughter being vandalized and being pro-genocide? “Are you actually dumb are just choosing [sic] idiotic arguments. [sic]”

It’s what I mean when I say you reduce her to solely a Jew.

Incorrect. What I’m saying is that her Jewishness in inextricably tied to her and a memorial to her and the genocide of Jewish people. Again, you keep seeming to ignore it, but there are other genocide monuments right in Amsterdam that they could have defaced and still done the “defacing a genocide memorial to draw attention to a genocide.”

I’m not telling you how to do anything,

You’re literally accusing me of supporting genocide by my protest of their actions. It’s the same exact thing I’m doing with their antisemitic protest. The difference is that I can logically support my claim, while yours requires ignoring what I’ve explicitly told you is my position.

that seems like common sense

You’re confusing what you want to be true with “common sense.” I’m not saying you are wrong, I don’t know the man so to me it’s “common sense” not to speak for him, but I find it terribly presumptuous to believe that they would be okay with this.

I’m saying your actions say you’re against drawing attention to genocide

It’s a ridiculous logic jump from because I think their actions are antisemitic, that means I’m against drawing attention to the genocide. It’s the same exact ridiculously baseless logic that Netenyahu and so many Zionists are using to paint any protest of their actions as antisemitism. It’s shocking to see it used “in reverse.”

but looking from the outside in reducing someone to a jew and not a icon is pretty shitty behavior.

It’s kind of hilarious for you to use this argument while arguing that it’s ridiculous to assume that defacing the a jewish memorial is antisemitic, when there is zero link for the former and a pretty glaring one for the latter.

You want then to “protest the right way” you’re part of the problem.

Again, putting words in my mouth. I’m just pointing out how defacing a memorial of a jewish person that has nothing to with Zionism reeks of antisemitism. Also, funny, how you telling me protesting their actions with my words is wrong and I’m against drawing attention the genocide, are basically telling me to “protest the right way.” What’s good for the goose, my friend.

No, I suggested her family would be ashamed of you for reducing her to just a jew

I certainly never did anything of the sort. Which is what I mean about making up my position. You can’t debate what I said, so you have to make up something ridiculous to attack.

But this still doesn’t answer my question. We are talking about someone defacing her memorial, and you said “Neither her not her father Otto are likely to take issue to drawing attention to genocide.”

I can only interpret this one of two ways: either you think they would be okay with people defacing her memorial, or you think that I’m against drawing attention to genocide. I can assure you the latter is not true, but can you explain? Maybe I’m missing something.

you ignore the genocide victim section and instead claim antisemitism solely because she’s Jewish.

I very explicitly told them what they could do about the genocide part of it without exposing their antisemitism.

the fact you can’t see that over her religion is the fucking point.

Again, many other genocide memorials one could deface, including right in Amsterdam. You seem to be projecting: you think that I’m focusing solely on her being Jewish, while you are seemingly ignoring it from your point.

But no no she’s a Jew that’s all she’ll ever be, you’re right how shameful of me to suggest otherwise.

Wait, you’re arguing that her family would be for them defacing her memorial? Wow. No wonder you have to make up my position.

But no no she’s a Jew that’s all she’ll ever be, you’re right how shameful of me to suggest otherwise.

What if they painted a swastika on it? No one was harmed. Is that also nothing like the analogy I made?

Nope what you’re doing is implying that because she is a new

No, what I’m saying is that targeting her for the protest, when she has nothing to do with Israel, makes it pretty clear they are targeting her because she is a jew. If you want to deface a genocide memorial to make your point about Gazans being the victim of genocide, it wouldn’t expose your antisemitism if you targeted memorials of victims other genocides.

Anne Frank has nothing to do with Zionism. She was dead long before the formation of Israel. She represents the suffering, struggles, and genocide of the Jews at the hands of the Nazis.

It would be like walking up to a Jewish person, regardless of their position on Zionism, and punching them in the face and then trying to claim it isn’t antisemitism but a protest against Zionism.

Sorry, but it is. They might not realize that they are blaming all Jews for Zionism, but that’s precisely what they are doing.

Many people find antisemitism to be upsetting. Just because it’s being done as protest to upset people doesn’t change what it is.

It’s funny because that was me and I was going along with what I thought was the joke there, although still poking fun at the a random idiot because they did say something stupid.

Apparently not obviously because people seem to be buying her story at face value, despite if you watch the video she insults the guy for his accent, and I’m being massively downvoted for pointing it out.

They didn’t call the police on them for bringing food in, they called the police on them for refusing to leave.

Poes law. But whether they are joking or not, you can read the other poster responding to me who seems to defend the claim.

Which is why I agreed with them. No point there.

Seriously, God forbid someone being reasonably skeptical.

You realize that is just one side of the story, coming from the person who benefits the most from the theater employees looking badly. I don’t know if what she said is true, but there is no video of it, so I would take it with a huge grain of salt.

They don’t control the rules outside the theater. Suggesting there is some slippery slope from them not allowing outside food in the theater to them controlling your life before going is just absolutely absurd.

I think “the shoe is on the other foot” is cutting both ways here. Read this thread, it’s filled with people defending banning people for hate speech, but the defending him here for literally asking for someone to be murdered.