And your comment is relevant to 0.005% of the people in the world.
Read the rules.
If you want to argue the minutia of building codes of the past, I’m sure there’s a sub for that.
I don’t think that the 1960’s life style was ‘lesser’ than today’s by any means.
Check “Hell’s Angels” by Hunter Thompson. There’s a chapter where he runs down the economics of being a hippie/biker/drop out.
A biker could work six months as a Union stevedore and then go on the road for two years. A part time waitress could support herself and her musician boy freind.
There was a popular travel series. The first book was “Europe on $5.00 A Day.” Eventually, they had “Paris…” “London…” and other great vacations all for $5.00/day.
Sporting events, movies, and concerts were much cheaper.
If you wanted distraction, there were book stalls and news stands everywhere.
When I make a random observation I like to put “[off topic]” at the start.
I make the $1.00 minimum wage/$11,000.00 house argument a lot because it so clearly shows how far down we’ve gone.
A lot of people try to refute it by pointing out how much “richer” people are today.
I was confused because I thought you were trying to address the main point, not adding an aside
See?
Yes.
That’s exactly what I was saying
Unless you’re trying to say that all the advances made since 1960 are a direct result of inflation, nothing you posit makes any sense.
Talk to the people who were around at the time, or look at books or essays.
Archie Bunker was often cited as a ‘middle class’ figure.
lemme technical comment.
I’m Dagwood and I was arguing that we’d actually had a ‘middle class’ where the average wage earner could move ahead in the world by working 40 hours a week.
Sohoriots was arguing that the middle class was an illusion.
I think you were trying to commnet to Soho and not me.
Okay?
You do know that there are people walking around your town who were alive in 1970, right?
. There actually was a time when you could have a pretty good life with a simple job.
In 1960 minimum wage was $1.00/hour and the price of the average US home was $11,000.00.
No. There actually was a time when you could have a pretty good life with a simple job.
Look up “Hells Angel’s” by Hunter Thompson. There’s a chapter where he runs down the economics of dropping out circa 1970. A biker could work a Union stevedore job for six months and earn enough to live on the road for two years. A part time waitress could support herself and her musicain boyfriend.
That was before Nixon started printing paper dollars to pay for Vietnam and Ronald Reagan cut taxes for the rich.
And had money to go to the nudie bar…
We need to stop using the term “middle class.”
Back in the day, middle class meant Archie Bunker/Al Bundy supporting a family of four with one job.
Today it’s two college graduates struggling to keep up with the bills.
We’re in Tsarist Russia; a huge mass of serfs, a small set of professionals, and an aristocracy that controls 90% of the wealth.
Think about it this way. In 1960, minimum wage was $1.00/hour and the average home was $11,000.00 In 1968, when Richard Nixon took office, ‘middle class’ meant one Union job supporting a family of four. By the time Bush Sr. left office in 1992 “middle class” was two college jobs to support the household.
Know your history
Reminds me of a Billy Crystal joke.
105 year old man and his 99 year old wife go to the judge to ask for a divorce.
“Are you sure that you want a divorce at your ages?”
“Yes, your honor, we haven’t been happy for a while and it’s time to end things.”
“Why did you stay together for so long?”
“We were waiting for the children to die.”
I immediately thought they were talking about weight.
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