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  • Carrolade@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlPerfection
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    2 days ago

    Yeah, there’s definitely a hassle vs reward calculus that quickly gets figured. Usually the hassle side of the equation is a little too high unless its something that can be quickly and easily fixed. Like if they forgot something it’s very easy to just go “oh, and can I please get …” which usually immediately reminds them and they go grab it.

    Or if the food got royally fucked then engagement can become worth it, even over something harder to fix. Like, if my steak is well done and I ordered med rare, I kinda want either a new steak or a comped meal.


  • This pre-supposes that the center should be grounded in reality while ignoring that through most of human history, reality was not a driving force in decision-making. That’s a feature of the scientific revolution, the Renaissance and Reformation periods of human history. In the grand scale of things, people-writ-large are still not accustomed to basing decisions on factuality or evidence, but on authority and myth.

    Fully teaching this and why it was necessary takes years of education, unfortunately.

    If we acknowledge that the right is fundamentally about traditional ways of behavior, we have to acknowledge that a purely factual and evidence-based approach is something entirely different from this. A problem occurs though, if we fail to acknowledge that purely rational people are actually in the minority. Whether we like it or not, the vast majority of people still use some myth to guide their choices, and that’s where the actual center is from a population standpoint. Look at the popularity of things like astrology.








  • If there was a team of downvoters following him around, then the number of downvotes he receives would be more consistent across his content, with older things having more and newer things having fewer.

    Instead what we see is wildly varying downvote totals, seeming to depend on the specific thing he says. People disagreeing with his statements would not fuel his victimhood mentality though.

    Personally I do check his account once a day to keep tabs on him. I don’t generally downvote though, I prefer to fact check his statements.



  • So uh, I appreciate everyone’s sentiment, but this would actually make our problems worse. Living in Russia does not prevent you from running a propaganda network, though sanctions might possibly interfere with supplements sales.

    What living in Russia definitely does do, though, is prevent our legal system from reaching you with any form of consequences. Many of our fiercest propaganda foes do live safely in Russia where we just cannot reach them very easily, and they are still a major problem. A lot of the fake local “news” websites, for instance, are run by one single American expat, living in Russia. He just remakes them when they get taken down, he’s made hundreds, all spreading a mix of copied real news and standard Russian propaganda.

    Things aren’t always as simple as they seem. Most things, actually.



  • Excellent summary overall.

    One thing though, regarding feeding trolls. This was excellent advice in the earlier days of the internet, back when anyone trolling was doing it simply as a recreational activity, to have fun.

    We no longer live in that world though. People have realized that there’s real power here, where one guy on Twitter can start riots through an entire western European country with a single tweet. Where an online campaign can change the political makeup of your country.

    Now, in this day, we have a civic responsibility to treat trolls as we would if we encountered these behaviors in real life, because there is no difference anymore. It would be unrealistic to set some utopian standard for our online interactions when the digital sphere has simply become an extension of the physical world, with all the same problems and issues, and thus a responsibility to engage as one’s conscience demands.

    As a side note, one idea I saw recently that I liked, I think it was mozz’s, that people receive temporary bans for any examples of using a classic strawman argument. I think this would be fairly easy to enforce and quite productive. It’s almost impossible to troll effectively if you can’t strawman, it’s probably one of the most common features.