• 133arc585@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Accusing the US of escalation here when Russia violently invaded it’s peaceful neighbor?

    Do you understand what escalation means? Escalation doesn’t have anything to do with who started it. It’s a relative action: it escalates from some state. The USA is committing troops where it previously hadn’t (or, more pedantically, is increasing the number of committed troops). This is escalation.

    You can complain about Russia starting this, but you should also complain about the USA escalating the situation.

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      The US is DIRECTLY responsible for this by FORCING innocent Russian soldiers to into Crimea and TRAPPING them there with absolutely no recourse or way to escape!

      If only the US didn’t force the entire country of Ukraine to toss the Russian puppet out on his ass as they watched their neighbor countries lose their sovereignty to the exact same scheme. (Belarus, Georgia)

      And the US was being a real dick when they started setting boundaries around election meddling and cyber security intrusions.

      And exactly what business did the US have pulling back relationships after only a mere few decades of egregious human rights abuses?!?!? (Magnitsky)

      And who could have foreseen all of those political opponents who went and poisoned themselves with polonium tea in sovereign nations for the sole and exclusive purpose of making Russia look bad.

      Or was it the DEFENSIVE alliance that Russian neighbors so rudely wanted to join after decades of abuse by Russia?


      You revisionist puppet.

      You’re a fascist and a Nazi and unwelcome in civilized society.

      Go away.

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        Wtf does this have to do with the US escalating their military presence? You do realize that once the us officially get involved it’s WW3 with literal nukes, right? You don’t seriously think a territorial conflict between Russia and Ukraine is worth nuking the world over, do you?

        Remember how WW1 escalated? Treaties calling everyone into a pointless war over someone else’s conflict.

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            Are you for real or are you being a troll?

            Let’s say the us gets involved. Article 5 is invoked in NATO and we get a WW1 style escalation into world war. Major nuclear powers are all involved. Someone is going to use a nuke. Maybe tactically at first but it will quickly spiral out of control. Unless something happens that renders all nukes inert, their use is all but guaranteed in WW3.

            World war is not good in any instance, regardless if it triggers nuclear Armageddon. Europe has only just recovered from 1 and 2.

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                Sounds like you don’t understand history and don’t understand the concept of NATO.

                Study history, it gives you the context you need to think the world isnt an action movie and actually articulate your thoughts as to the flaws in my analysis based on historical facts and current world affairs.

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                  1 year ago

                  Ad hominem attacks just show that you have no defense for the propaganda you’re spewing. It’s so transparent.

                  • klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net
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                    Then what exactly do you call your comment I’m replying to?

                    It sounds like you watch too many action movies.

                    Seems exactly like an ad hominem attack. Something i only return in favor. You had absolutely nothing intelligent to say in response to me and it shows. Christ almighty, quit gaslighting everyone. We get it youre either a bot or working at a pentagon troll farm.

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                You must have no historical understanding. I’d be happy to provide you a reading list to bring you up to speed.

                Honestly I’m a little concerned you would say something like that in response to a statement like

                World war is not good in any isntance

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                    No, you’re just a warmonger. Happy to let the world burn in your own ignorance.

                    Seriously, learn history instead of trying to throw random insults at people online. The would would be much better off for it. I’m not joking about that reading list.