• kittenbridgeasteroid@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    It’s also forgetting that a significant portion of homeless people are homeless by choice, or are homeless for reasons that just providing housing won’t resolve.

    People have this idea that all homeless people are just regular people who experienced hard times, but that’s just a minority. Most homeless are mentally ill people who won’t take their meds or drug addicts who aren’t willing to quit.

    It sucks, and they shouldn’t have to live on the streets, but you can’t force people to change.

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      I don’t think people have that idea at all, if anything they are more likely to assume a homeless person is mentally ill and drug addicted than they are to think they are experiencing hard times or employed but unable to pay for housing.

      However housing first has been pretty successful, but goes against many people’s values for some reason. The big fear of someone getting something undeserved is strong.

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        Some might say the big fear of someone getting something undeserved is strong enough to prop up an entire political party.

        But it is not exclusive to them, of course. Some are just very bad about it.

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            You’re more than welcome to look up statistics. ~60% of the chronicly homeless have life long mental health issues, and ~80% have substance abuse issues.

            Pretty much every city/state has resources to help the homeless, but the homeless have to be willing to accept the help. Most shelters are drug free, so addicts don’t want to stay there and they won’t accept people whose mental illness makes them violent.

            You can’t force a person to take their medicine or stop doing drugs unless you want to start building more prisons.

            Again, I was never saying that all homelessness is a choice, but a lot of people choose not to accept the help that’s available.

            Source: My wife has her masters in the field and used to work with these populations as an addiction counselor, in Texas, so I know that resources exist at a state level even in a state that clearly hates it’s citizens.

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          Yeah, liberals and conservatives only differ on whether gay people should be put to death, so you’re not really saying much. And being liberal does not, whatsoever, make you immune to conservative propaganda. We live in a capitalist society, founded on liberal values: whether conservatives know it or not, it is liberal values they are conserving.

          Also, as I’ve said about 5 times now, no one is saying that building houses alone will solve the issue. So stop beating that strawman.

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      I believe you are arguing in good faith, so I’m hoping you can provide a source for your claim that the majority suffer from mental illness or drug addiction.