but like… the like/dislike buttons are there for the algorithm. they’re there to tweak your recommendations. always were. the problem with having the ratio visible is that people will brigade, and that “mainstreams” your recommendations, making them less useful. that’s why youtube removed the visible ratios. putting them back, and just for people with the plugin, means your recommendations will start to align only with the people who have the plugin. it literally becomes an echo chamber.
Like I said, many of us use like/dislike ratios to gain insight into quality of content; whether or not that was the intended use of the feature is really irrelevant.
You’re massively overstating the incidence of brigading. A tiny fraction of videos have experienced this. The idea that brigading is significantly affecting user recommendations and even causing them to align is hyperbolic nonsense.
well that’s good then. personally my experience with the dislike bar is mostly from siIvagunner, where videos with well-used tracks got shitloads of dislikes, more than the views of videos without them. this despite the quality of work put into them. i’m glad to be rid of that.
I have no experience with that channel. What makes you think it is being brigaded? Seems like a very unusual target. Given that it’s well-used tracks that appear to be affected, it seems to me that it may just be attracting a greater breadth of viewers - who are generally less familiar with the content and may have different expectations (and would be just as likely to downvote whether visible or not.)
but like… the like/dislike buttons are there for the algorithm. they’re there to tweak your recommendations. always were. the problem with having the ratio visible is that people will brigade, and that “mainstreams” your recommendations, making them less useful. that’s why youtube removed the visible ratios. putting them back, and just for people with the plugin, means your recommendations will start to align only with the people who have the plugin. it literally becomes an echo chamber.
Like I said, many of us use like/dislike ratios to gain insight into quality of content; whether or not that was the intended use of the feature is really irrelevant.
You’re massively overstating the incidence of brigading. A tiny fraction of videos have experienced this. The idea that brigading is significantly affecting user recommendations and even causing them to align is hyperbolic nonsense.
well that’s good then. personally my experience with the dislike bar is mostly from siIvagunner, where videos with well-used tracks got shitloads of dislikes, more than the views of videos without them. this despite the quality of work put into them. i’m glad to be rid of that.
I have no experience with that channel. What makes you think it is being brigaded? Seems like a very unusual target. Given that it’s well-used tracks that appear to be affected, it seems to me that it may just be attracting a greater breadth of viewers - who are generally less familiar with the content and may have different expectations (and would be just as likely to downvote whether visible or not.)