• pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    The difference is so narrow that I wouldn’t notice any difference apart from the length, the first and last e are very slightly shorter than the middle e. And of course you have the usual going-down-with-your-voice-at-the-end-of-the-word

    • lugal@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 months ago

      Yes, we often call them “long” and “short” E but the short E is actually halfway to A. It’s a different vowel even though it’s written the same. The last E is the vowel we often have in unstressed syllables like gekommen, same in English upon, about. We write it as E but it’s basically the most relaxed vowel possible.

      Look at this vowel chart to see and hear the differences.

        • lugal@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          2 months ago

          Yesn’t.

          E and Ä are basically the same sounds but you use the letter Ä to indicate that the root word has an A. Fähre is derived from fahren so it has Ä but it’s the same sound as the first E in Mercedes.

          • pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            2 months ago

            At least in Austria the first e in Mercedes is much closer to e than to ä.

            On the other hand many actual ä are also much closer to e than to ä in Austria so ig it might be different in Germany.